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« Reply #1035 on: Jan 8th, 2009, 3:31pm »

Thanks alot for the replies! That will help. I noticed Taylor that you mentioned to get M-Audio Axiom as a starter controller. Would 25 key or 49 be better? If the 49 key is better would you recommend M-Audio Oxygen 49 49-key Mobile USB Controller?

Also let me know if I'm being a pest! I'll stop asking noob questions!
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« Reply #1036 on: Jan 8th, 2009, 3:57pm »

im not a big fan of the key action on the axioms, get a novation if youve got the cash

ive also been lusting after the mpk49
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« Reply #1037 on: Jan 8th, 2009, 4:02pm »

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« Reply #1038 on: Jan 8th, 2009, 8:03pm »

on Jan 8th, 2009, 3:31pm, bdk wrote:
Thanks alot for the replies! That will help. I noticed Taylor that you mentioned to get M-Audio Axiom as a starter controller. Would 25 key or 49 be better? If the 49 key is better would you recommend M-Audio Oxygen 49 49-key Mobile USB Controller?

Also let me know if I'm being a pest! I'll stop asking noob questions!


the m-audio axiom is a pretty good controller. the semi weighted keys are nice to play with and the pads arent that bad. the knobs kind of suck because they dont end, they spin 360. other than that its a good starter. dont get the 25 though if you want to learn how to play piano, you need at least a 37 or 49
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« Reply #1039 on: Jan 8th, 2009, 8:21pm »

^ agreed

25 is only useful for sample triggering really or if you only plan on playing one range (bass)
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« Reply #1040 on: Jan 8th, 2009, 8:33pm »

I agree with MFM and Luke. The Axiom is a great controller and has a great feel, I have the 61 key version. Coming from playing piano to that thing wasn't really all that painful, I like it!

And Luke, those 360 knobs are called pots and are for fine tuning. The other faders are for macro tuning
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« Reply #1041 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 08:18am »

what are people's preferred Vocoder VSTs?
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« Reply #1042 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 08:42am »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 08:18am, gavinmac wrote:
what are people's preferred Vocoder VSTs?

I'm a big fan of Vokator, but MDA's offerings (talkbox/vocoder) are actually pretty solid given their price of $0.
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« Reply #1043 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 2:41pm »

you guys all like the axiom keys? i feel like theyre a bit sluggish on the return so i cant play fast on em,

presoniq orange vocoder...oh and the reason vocoder even though its gay how you can route it to any actual vocals
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« Reply #1044 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 7:10pm »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 08:42am, IV wrote:
I'm a big fan of Vokator, but MDA's offerings (talkbox/vocoder) are actually pretty solid given their price of $0.


I've used MDA's Talkbox in every single Baby Diamonds track that uses a vocoder. It can be buggy though, which bothers the shit outta me. When it works though, it's beautiful.
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« Reply #1045 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 09:21am »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 2:41pm, Taylor wrote:
you guys all like the axiom keys? i feel like theyre a bit sluggish on the return so i cant play fast on em,

presoniq orange vocoder...oh and the reason vocoder even though its gay how you can route it to any actual vocals


theyre suppose to be sluggish because theyre weighted. you get used to it. i know what you mean though, i tried playing a full weighted keyboard and it was just way to slow for me.

how does everyone construct their drum kits? do you make your own kicks? or do you just make kits of sampled sounds?
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« Reply #1046 on: Jan 11th, 2009, 02:40am »

I mostly use Reason's Vocoder which is really flexible actually.
I also have a Rocktron Banshee talkbox.
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« Reply #1047 on: Jan 11th, 2009, 6:18pm »

on Jan 11th, 2009, 02:40am, MERCURIUSFM wrote:
I mostly use Reason's Vocoder which is really flexible actually.
I also have a Rocktron Banshee talkbox.


I'm considering getting a Rocktron Banshee talkbox to accompany my microkorg.
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« Reply #1048 on: Jan 11th, 2009, 10:02pm »

Hey guys, another little trick I figured out that you might not have thought of.
Here's the scenario: I want to compress my drums to get them to breathe together. I'm using the Waves RComp for that. I also want to add on some reverb to my percussion, but not my kick. The thing is, I don't want the verb added on to the raw percussion sounds, but the percussion after it's gone through the compressor with the kick. Problem is, if I add on reverb, you're going to end up with it on your kick no matter how much you try to filter it.

Solution: After they go through the compressor, route your drums to another track where you add on a phase inverted copy of your kick. The kick has to be identical in sound and volume. That means running it through another RComp with the exact same settings. What will happen is, the inverted kick will cancel out the kick already in the signal and you'll end up with the leftover percussion. It will be the percussion sound AFTER being compressed with the kick, but the kick won't be there. You can then run this to a reverb send and tweak it further.

Make sense?
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
EDIT: I JUST REALIZED THIS ISN'T THE WHERE I GO ON MUSHROOMS THREAD.
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« Reply #1049 on: Jan 12th, 2009, 03:00am »

Edit: Nevermind, I see what you're saying Kyran. I've never run into that problem because I never use compressors, except on my master track. I also separate every single drum track so I can control the individual effects and routing on each one.

But why wouldn't you just route all the tracks you want compressed to an aux track with the compressor on it, then use reverb sends on the original tracks to control the reverb? I know the reverb would be coming from the original signal and not the compressed, but it should make almost no audible difference in the quality of your reverb and it would be worth it to save all that time, hassle and extra CPU power.

That or bounce it down to audio. That would save the most time and CPU power. Plus if you're messing with compressor and reverb settings you're probably already done with the creative process of the track and ready to mix.
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