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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1215 on: Mar 2nd, 2009, 2:33pm »

using recording interfaces in live situations is a BAD idea. depending on the system it can create all sorts of issues. just come out of your headphone jack into a channel on the dj mixer.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1216 on: Mar 2nd, 2009, 6:38pm »

on Mar 2nd, 2009, 2:33pm, MiscChoc wrote:
using recording interfaces in live situations is a BAD idea. depending on the system it can create all sorts of issues. just come out of your headphone jack into a channel on the dj mixer.


would you care to expand on some of those issues?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1217 on: Mar 2nd, 2009, 9:03pm »

on Mar 2nd, 2009, 2:33pm, MiscChoc wrote:
using recording interfaces in live situations is a BAD idea. depending on the system it can create all sorts of issues. just come out of your headphone jack into a channel on the dj mixer.


You have to be careful doing that as well, make sure the cable that your using is of good quality. Also there are issues with grounding your laptop so that you don't get feedback fuzz. The way you can do this is to make sure that the plug in your plugging your laptop into is 3 pronged and that all 3 prongs are plugged in. The big one at the bottom is a ground wire that prevents a feedback loop from building up and preventing a big deep 30 hz buzz to happen and also to potentially stop your laptop from exploding.

A well set up audio interface is better as the sound quality coming out is likely to be better. Also you don't have to worry about gain issues. There are plenty of products that are made specifically for this and your best bet is to look into investing in one of these. Preferably something that has 2 pronged rca output cables.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1218 on: Mar 2nd, 2009, 9:04pm »

on Feb 22nd, 2009, 2:13pm, JOEDIRT wrote:
hey guys i am newbie here...i was just wondering what your thoughts are on the Maschine groovebox by NI?


Saw this ages ago and have been meaning to give it a go. Looks like a interesting idea.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1219 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 10:13am »

on Mar 2nd, 2009, 9:03pm, FISK wrote:
Also there are issues with grounding your laptop so that you don't get feedback fuzz. The way you can do this is to make sure that the plug in your plugging your laptop into is 3 pronged and that all 3 prongs are plugged in. The big one at the bottom is a ground wire that prevents a feedback loop from building up and preventing a big deep 30 hz buzz to happen and also to potentially stop your laptop from exploding.



You have it backwards. Converting your 3 prong laptop plug into a two prong eliminates the ground loop feedback. However, this is potentially dangerous for your power supply and something can short. In tight situations I have done this, as I've heard it is a rare occurance that something can go haywire. However, when I remember, I bring a ground loop isolator which connects my RCAs into the mixer.

Your recommendation on using as interface is correct, as a good interface will have much lower latency and will be less likely to have hangups.
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« Reply #1220 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 11:00am »

on Mar 2nd, 2009, 2:33pm, MiscChoc wrote:
using recording interfaces in live situations is a BAD idea. depending on the system it can create all sorts of issues. just come out of your headphone jack into a channel on the dj mixer.

lol @ ''BAD idea''. if it fits someone's live workflow, that's great. i could do a live set with a 4track tape recorder, if it does what i want, that's cool.
what's up with ''BAD'' ideas?!
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1221 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 4:46pm »

thanks for the advice.

i'll try going straight from a line out/RCA adapter to the mixer.
however, the stock soundcard in my laptop IS a piece of basura. (sigmatel high definition audio CODEC). so i might have to upgrade or go with an audio interface.
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« Reply #1222 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 4:54pm »

Well if you're using an interface which doesn't have drivers optimized for low latency, high quality monitoring, then I'd agree it's quite the bad idea to use it live.

Cutting the grounding plug of of your laptop's power supply is also a bad idea. You don't want your shit catching on fire. There are safer ways to eliminate a ground loop. Google.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1223 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 4:59pm »

i'd suggest you pick up an external sound card, they aren't that expensive and they'll probably give you a better output than the headphone jack off ur built in soundcard.

i was a little confused when someone suggested that external sound cards cause problems.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1224 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 10:12pm »

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHUCA202
this should do the trick, right?
regarding external soundcards causing problems...i don't think they should if properly set up (drivers, etc.). i mean, the things are supposed to increase sound quality and connections...
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1225 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 8:46pm »

on Mar 2nd, 2009, 12:05am, boba threat wrote:
ok i know that this is a noob question...

i am djing with ableton and need to hook up my laptop to a club's soundsystem. what is the best way?
should i go straight from my laptop's headphone jack via RCA adapter? (will this sacrifice sound quality?)
or should i purchase an audio interface?
or a sound card with external outputs? (i don't really feel like tearing up my brand new laptop...)



well that depends on how you want to do it really.

if you just want the sound to come out then yeah just plug into one of the channels on the mixer with a 3.5 to RCA cable... but that will limit what you can do with cueing...

even though you warp (beatmatch) in ableton before hand you don't necessarily have to... if someone requests a song or you're going through your library and find a gem you want to drop and you want to be able to hear it so you can warp it on the fly then you should get an external sound card...

then it's a choice if you want to connect 2 channels to the mixer. you set up 2 buses on ableton each one having an output to a channel then you eq and use the effects on the mixer, and you can cue just like you would if you had turn tables... or

you can set it up so your output is just the master channel from ableton into one channel from the mixer and do all your eq/mixing inhouse... you can also cue this way... but you will also want a midi controller to be able to map out EQs and effects...

i set it up using a Numark DJio external audio card... it looks like this



does that make sense at all?
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« Reply #1226 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 10:00pm »

on Mar 4th, 2009, 8:46pm, robotech wrote:
well that depends on how you want to do it really.

if you just want the sound to come out then yeah just plug into one of the channels on the mixer with a 3.5 to RCA cable... but that will limit what you can do with cueing...

even though you warp (beatmatch) in ableton before hand you don't necessarily have to... if someone requests a song or you're going through your library and find a gem you want to drop and you want to be able to hear it so you can warp it on the fly then you should get an external sound card...

then it's a choice if you want to connect 2 channels to the mixer. you set up 2 buses on ableton each one having an output to a channel then you eq and use the effects on the mixer, and you can cue just like you would if you had turn tables... or

you can set it up so your output is just the master channel from ableton into one channel from the mixer and do all your eq/mixing inhouse... you can also cue this way... but you will also want a midi controller to be able to map out EQs and effects...

i set it up using a Numark DJio external audio card... it looks like this



does that make sense at all?


Mezze, did you get a new Macbook Pro? I don't remember you having one last time we DJed the airport lounge. But then again I was pretty drunk.

Also everyone else, Mezze is great with Live, if you have any questions he's the man to ask.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1227 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 10:53pm »

thanks dude, i heard your new track i like it, who is that girl who does your vocals? she's great.

i had this when i saw you last, yeah it's really nice, i have a few complaints but for the most part it's the best laptop I've ever owned for sure... great battery life, performance etc etc... can't wait for snow leopard
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1228 on: Mar 5th, 2009, 11:20am »

What are you guys thoughts on building sample libraries of filler stuff like "hey's" and claps and catch vocal lines. How legal is it to sample that stuff from rap songs and the likes? How do you guys do it?
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« Reply #1229 on: Mar 5th, 2009, 1:44pm »

on Sep 19th, 2008, 04:37am, Heraclys wrote:
How do I make a "negative envelope" with ableton?
When I want to automate the pan slider of my arturia arp 2600v, then when I want it to go to the right, I need a negative envelope?
First time I face a "negative envelope" problem...


You can't as far as I know. What you need to do is set your mix level pan to dead center, then automate the panning in arrangement view for the entire track. After you set your mix pan to 0 the automation envelope will appear in the middle of the window instead of at the bottom, allowing you to move it up or down which is L and R respectively.

I know it's a bit more of pain, but it's a good habit to get into anyway as it will encourage you to automate panning more which will make your mix sound livelier.

Ableton does alot of stupid things like this, never realized it until i switched over to Pro Tools (which is now my deity of choice).
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