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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1275 on: Mar 21st, 2009, 10:56am »

on Mar 20th, 2009, 10:16am, breezy wrote:
hey guys, been lurking here for a minute, and finally made an account after doing a bit of reading as i wanna get advice from some of you knowledgable folks

so im looking to getting into djing and music production, not sure to what degree i want to but i guess time will tell if I get serious about it or not but everybody's gotta start somewhere. I'm half decent at dj-ing with turntables (mixing, beatmatching etc.) since I play around with my friends, but I decided to go the ableton and laptop route. Been reading as much as I can on ableton and finding resources. My question is on equipment I'm going to need for my tasks.

As far as I understand, for dj-ing ill need:
a MIDI controller
headphones
sound card to allow 2 outputs for headphones and speakers

is this enough to get started? what's a solid midi controller? I've just been reading about this one (the akai APC40) and apparently it's perfect as it's made for ableton.
http://www.akaipro.com/apc40
Any recommendations about this one or any other ones?

and then for production, this is where I'm stumped...what do i need exactly? I'm not looking for professional equipment obviously as I'm getting started, but what are some solid equipment that are good bang for your buck, and what exactly do i need? a midi keyboard? a synthesizer?

any advice is appreciated, thanks!



just about anything maps to ableton. so midi controllers wont be your problem.

you normally will use VST's if youre strapped for cash its hard to find a classic synth decent synth under a couple grand, but you can be lucky so keep an eye out.

But you'll be hard pressed to find a VST that wont give you the sound you want.

if you want VST's.

google KVR, and kvrvst should come up, its a greatwebsite, i also suggest investing in minimonsta.

if you want to make electronic music, youre gonna have to learn software. get to know ableton, or even reason / cubase to the best of your abilities, and if you wanna get more serious, pro tools.

personally.

i got a 61 blank midi controller and a 2xBCR2000's to control everything else, thats 64knobs and 61keys.

more than enough to control a synth.

most importantly, learn your theory. know your sound, you wont get an amazing sound by just stumbling upon it (although it happens) you need to know what you want to attain, and what will make your sound phatter, thinner or just plain awesome, thats when knowing your compressors, phasers, flangers, reverbs, delays and each bit about them before you make it.

but then again, you can just play in presets to get cool sounds, but knowing exactly what is happening will make your song that much better.

if you want to do study music production /. sound engineering. Go to SAE, there is one in pretty much every major city, and it kicks ass, you learn everything about music production / sound theory / and music software im currently doing it and i could not be happier, they always have big ass studios you can stay in overnight in the studio making stuff if you wish.

learn song structure.


for djing in ableton.
a laptop.
an external sound card (depending on what laptop youre running)
and a midi controller, preferrably one that you enjoy.

i'll say this now, bring your laptop in and fiddle about, find an controller that matches YOUR workflow not just on reviews, ive saved a couple hundred bucks on equipment by finding what was best for me, not everyone else.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1276 on: Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:41pm »

Is it possible to make your DMX lights move with Ableton?

I want to draw my automation for my lights in ableton just like I draw my midi envelopes.
It would be nice to have midi tracks that automate my lights.

I know Soulwax does it...

Any tips on what to buy?
USB DMX interface?
Some rad vst plugin?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1277 on: Mar 22nd, 2009, 7:54pm »

Something that could take a midi input and transmit it to lighting signals would do it. Then you could probably just send CC messages and have shit work.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1278 on: Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:49am »

on Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:41pm, Heraclys wrote:
Is it possible to make your DMX lights move with Ableton?

I want to draw my automation for my lights in ableton just like I draw my midi envelopes.
It would be nice to have midi tracks that automate my lights.

I know Soulwax does it...

Any tips on what to buy?
USB DMX interface?
Some rad vst plugin?



its a mac ableton plug in, cant remember what its called.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1279 on: Mar 23rd, 2009, 6:25pm »

on Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:41pm, Heraclys wrote:
Is it possible to make your DMX lights move with Ableton?

I want to draw my automation for my lights in ableton just like I draw my midi envelopes.
It would be nice to have midi tracks that automate my lights.

I know Soulwax does it...

Any tips on what to buy?
USB DMX interface?
Some rad vst plugin?


DMXIS
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1280 on: Mar 24th, 2009, 02:23am »

on Mar 23rd, 2009, 6:25pm, robotech wrote:
DMXIS


Thanks!
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1281 on: Mar 27th, 2009, 01:28am »

EIGHTY-SIX FUCKING PAGES!

Finally done, I read it all.

Thanks for all the input fellas.

Where's my High Five?

Huh?

Huh?

*Sticks hand out for waiting to receive High Five*

Any way in all seriousness. I bookmarked like 90% of the shit you guys linked up here. I have SO much reading to do, but thanks. I hope to stick around and join you all in hopes that I will become a better producer than I already am.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1282 on: Mar 27th, 2009, 12:51pm »

high five.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1283 on: Mar 27th, 2009, 12:52pm »

Well done. I wish more people would do that before posting their stupidity.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1284 on: Mar 27th, 2009, 2:51pm »

Hey I find this place really useful for technical information so I have a question.

I just got a couple Korg nano controllers-can't get em to work.

I'm using Windows XP and I want to use them with Live 7

I've downloaded the usb-MIDI driver but still nothing

I haven't gotten the message that it's been successfully installed

I've tried restarting, i did this whole windows update thing. It's also not on the control surface list in pref. It's not picking up the usb in ableton either.

Any help would be great thanks
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1285 on: Mar 27th, 2009, 5:30pm »

on Mar 27th, 2009, 01:28am, Logan wrote:
EIGHTY-SIX FUCKING PAGES!

Finally done, I read it all.

Thanks for all the input fellas.

Where's my High Five?

Huh?

Huh?

*Sticks hand out for waiting to receive High Five*

Any way in all seriousness. I bookmarked like 90% of the shit you guys linked up here. I have SO much reading to do, but thanks. I hope to stick around and join you all in hopes that I will become a better producer than I already am.



you should maybe do a post where you put up all those links in one post... maybe little description on what it is it would save lots of time for people who haven't read the whole board... i read it but didn't bookmark everything... good call...

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1286 on: Mar 27th, 2009, 5:32pm »

on Mar 27th, 2009, 2:51pm, BrianIFR wrote:
Hey I find this place really useful for technical information so I have a question.

I just got a couple Korg nano controllers-can't get em to work.

I'm using Windows XP and I want to use them with Live 7

I've downloaded the usb-MIDI driver but still nothing

I haven't gotten the message that it's been successfully installed

I've tried restarting, i did this whole windows update thing. It's also not on the control surface list in pref. It's not picking up the usb in ableton either.

Any help would be great thanks


control surface: macroKONTROL
input: nanoKONTROL

see if you have the macroKONTROL option... kinda confusing cause it's not called KORG
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1287 on: Mar 28th, 2009, 08:08am »

Thanks for the reply Robotech

MacroKONTROL is not on the list- There is MicroKONTROL but I'm pretty sure thats for the microkorg keyboard. I tried it and didn't work.


This has happened in the past with other controllers and they've always worked out eventually.

I hate to come on this board with petty computer problems.

I tried it again and my computer said it's installed and ready to use. So that's one step haha.

I just can't get it to talk to ableton. It's not lighting up in the corner and no sign of it in pref.

I'm so anxious to start mapping-I hate this.

Anyway, if you have any more tips for me that would be great.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1288 on: Mar 28th, 2009, 08:50am »

Brian - Best place to take that would be the Korg forums or call Korg directly. That's really strange, as mine was just plug and play. But I'm on a mac.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1289 on: Mar 29th, 2009, 7:20pm »

ok so I am in the market to buy a new piece of hardware and I have been debating between the korg esx-1 or the new NI Maschine...what do u guys think? do you have any experience with any of these?...or do you have any recommendation for me?
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