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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1320 on: Apr 7th, 2009, 8:00pm »

Hey guys,

How is the main synth line made on "click click". I have some knowledge of synthesizers but I am learning. It sounds to me like there is a distorted synth line that that is pitch-bent down at the end and some kind of sequence on top of that. You guys have any knowledge you could drop on me?

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1321 on: Apr 7th, 2009, 8:54pm »

kyran, avid owns both digidesign and m-audio
so even with alllll your bitching, you still paying the same niggas


i agree with todd, from experience working in guitar center
too many people came back because their m audio hardwares were fucked up
one, just ONE person came back with an mbox because he was too retarded to know how to connect it

that's why avid bought out m-audio to make cheaper consumer end interfaces that work with pro tools

almost everything m audio made was major fail
torq
key rig
fast track usb

and it's all so toy looking too

the axioms were stable but the Akai MPK killed them

i mean in the long run its not a matter of the gear makes the producer
it's all on the skill of the producer

but in this case LE>Mangina Powered
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« Reply #1322 on: Apr 7th, 2009, 10:13pm »

hey so I use m-powered and have an m-audio fast track pro so i'm just gonna tell you what I think.

k for one,fast track pro, i got it for 150 bucks. I haven't had any problems with drivers or anything but I am on a windows machine and I am extremely good with computers so I don't mind if something isnt exactly or perfectly plug and play.

I don't think its an amazing recording interface at all to be honest, but you really can do alright stuff with it:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/58341692b2aef4a2/

everything in that song is recorded through the fast track pro. seagull acoustic through M-1 pickup, fender strat, squier bass and yamaha electronic drum set. I have also recorded vocals through it with an entry level mic and have gotten pretty decent sound.

you are allowed i think 32 mono buses? 16 stereo buses then. there are also two output and two inputs. 5 pre and 5 post sends for each channel, and you can make as many channels as you like. honestly I cant imagine being limited with the number of buses because if you can come up with efficient routing structures you should be able to work it out.

the mbox seems nicer and I'm sure its a sound purchase in any regard.
I've used my friends PT LE on his macbook pro and its virtual the same as m-powered from what I've seen, though I didnt record anything on the mbox.

That being said, I'm pretty sure the DV toolkit being only offered on LE is a scam or when they did the software dongle security feature shiot they didnt integrate it into m-audio powered stuff because all the engineering and programming was already done, but oh well its their software and they can do what they want.

I use m-powered because I got it cracked and allowed me to use pro tools. I can get all the RTAS i need off the net as well.

its really just what you work with i guess. if youre doing recording I wouldn't suggest what I have to be honest, you're much better off paying big dollars and getting something proper as there seems to be a big difference in the consumer and "prosumer" equip.


EDIT: i paid about 200 bucks canadian in total for the entire pro tools set. thats prob like 150 ish american.
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« Reply #1323 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 03:20am »

props technopagans
it's all about doing your best with what you got
i started out in garage band and just the mic on the laptop
and you can get some decent quality, you just have to have a good ear
and be creative


i got my 003 rack with the factory plug ins bundle for 900 bux
(i had a deal with digi when i worked at GC 60% off of list price)
you get out of the box 8 ins and out's
but it has spdif and ADAT

so i got a presonus Digimax FS and now i have 18 in's and out
and that baby goes up to 96khz, but i never go over 48 to be honest

the presonus pre amps kill the digi one's

002's had focusrite preamps, but when they made 003 they split
and they put in "colorless" digi pre's which is just a fancy word for shit

the presonus is so great because i connect many more inputs all with one adat cable
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« Reply #1324 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 04:34am »

the fast track has spdif as well, one in, one out. to be honest I dont know the quality difference it offers, but if ireally care I can jsut look it up on google
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« Reply #1325 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 06:03am »

on regards of pro-tools m-powered.

look, you get what you pay for, the sound quality to say an m-box is pretty marginal , its just some minor incompatibilities which are pretty get in the way, and for people on a budget and just wanna make tracks, you wont notice a huge diff, maybe you will later down the track.

its made for the margin its under, and thats entry level, expect entry level quality.

why do you even think they have m-powered.

the features are all there for you to get ready to make music. and at the end of the day, making good music is your outcome, you can do it on both, its just about who's more anal about features.

and sif pay for pro tools, its the only sound product i dont want to pay for because its like giving my money to satan himself.

ive boycotted them ever since i first paid for pro-tools ages ago on my g4 and paid $1000 for the sound card (you know the 24 output ones) then next release a year and a half later they didnt fucking support the card.

just quietly justice used garageband on we are your friends.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1326 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 6:41pm »

on Apr 6th, 2009, 9:40pm, Kyran wrote:
Are you saying their equipment only fucks up when you're on an elevated platform, not in your bedroom?


hey...you know m audio doesnt altitude test their equipment, the air is thinner above the crowd, causes all kinds of crazy malfunctions
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« Reply #1327 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 6:52pm »

on Apr 8th, 2009, 6:41pm, Taylor wrote:
hey...you know m audio doesnt altitude test their equipment, the air is thinner above the crowd, causes all kinds of crazy malfunctions


nah its just stuff sometimes gets a little hectic trying to change equipment without the music stopping and dealing with compatibility issues and channels, etc, etc. most of the time its not bad, but sometimes there can be issues
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1328 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 9:48pm »

i just bought logic studio.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1329 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 10:33pm »

on Apr 8th, 2009, 9:48pm, MERCURIUSFM wrote:
i just bought logic studio.


Have you used Reason or Ableton and would you say its good for original composition?
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« Reply #1330 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 10:35pm »

reason is awesome if you have something to rewire it to like logic or ableton

i love the redrum and effects it's the only thing i use really

the synths are mostly cheesy sounding and i hate the midi editing on it
i just use VST's in intrument tracks for that

but some people pump out entire songs on reason
look at felix, end of the day thought the stems are getting rewired to pro tools

it's just a nicer print
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« Reply #1331 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 10:43pm »

yeah i primarily use Reason for my originals and then mix down everything in Soundtrack.

I like the synths in Reason, but like everything in every program, its all about the processing. My track 1997 was pretty much all made in Reason..

so yeah, i guess its personal taste anyways.

I wanted Logic Studio mostly for Soundtrack 2 Pro... Soundtrack is my fave. Plus i figured I can ease into Logic.
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« Reply #1332 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 11:06pm »

do any of you use the korg nano series controllers?
specifically the kontrol and the pad?
i'm thinking about pulling the trigger. read and watched hella reviews. and the price is super attractive.

i would be using in ableton.
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« Reply #1333 on: Apr 8th, 2009, 11:08pm »

on Apr 8th, 2009, 10:35pm, Diego De la Vega wrote:
look at felix, end of the day thought the stems are getting rewired to pro tools

it's just a nicer print



http://www.zshare.net/audio/58151941ec79d44b/

the distinct electroey synth once it kicks in at the beginning is a reason rewired into protools. in reason it sounds good, but hell in protools it has way fuller and contoured sound.

I dont use reason anymore but when i started i was using it for redrum like crazy in ableton. reason and ableton are an amazing combo to start off in before you get to bussing like mad.

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« Reply #1334 on: Apr 9th, 2009, 01:00am »

i want the buy the korg nanokey for my home setup, just so i could finger out basslines and stuff. nothing fancy

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