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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #135 on: Feb 20th, 2008, 6:18pm »

tron i suggest using the tutorials that are in the program to learn the basic functions of stuff. if it doesnt answer things there check manual.
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« Reply #136 on: Feb 20th, 2008, 7:11pm »

on Feb 20th, 2008, 3:47pm, tron wrote:
hey guys, i got a quick question. i upgraded from fl to ableton and im just starting to learn how to se it. i got the ableton live pack and it wont allow me to drop anything into the "audio" cells. why is this? i cant drop any audio samples, midi files, etc.

i feel so dumb with ableton because im usually pretty good at figuring softwares out by myself. it just seems so much harder to use than someting like fl, but im determined to figure it out.

ive also tried looking into tutorials online but i had a hard time finding tutorials for bare bones basics. a point in the right direction would be really appreciated.

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did you give it time to create an analysis file?
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« Reply #137 on: Feb 20th, 2008, 8:18pm »

on Feb 20th, 2008, 7:11pm, Taylor wrote:
did you give it time to create an analysis file?


Yo, Taylor. someone I know claims that ProTools will allow you to record the voices off your electric keyboard and also record the midi commands at the same time. That way the voices straight from the keyboard are recognized as audio signals and midi input commands are being recorded aswell. Is this true? He stands by what he claims he wittnessed from some proffesional producer. He says the guy recorded the "sounds" off the keyboard, messed up some notes in the process, adjusted the midi pattern and ProTools automatically adjusted to the midi pattern accordingly. Supposedly, it was still capable of changing the voices off the keyboard even after it was recorded. You know better than I do, what up?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #138 on: Feb 20th, 2008, 10:08pm »

shit, any synth with an audio and midi out can do that in any daw that will receive audio and midi, theyre just in seperate channels
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« Reply #139 on: Feb 22nd, 2008, 6:44pm »

Hey, I actually figured that one out before you answered...

My MBOX Pro 2 Factory Bundle from musiciansfriend.com is stil on backorder so I haven't gotten a chance to fool around with this. I have all this info on how to do what I asked but I'll ask you for help if I run into a problem. Thanks, Taylor.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #140 on: Feb 25th, 2008, 8:26pm »

hey taylor, a guestion for u and everyone else..

im trying to create a snare as big and sucking as sebastiAns - untitled (at the start)... I realise this is just mad compression maybe with some reverb.. I'm running logic so any help with the settings or stages would be greatly appreciated mate (Y)

MP3 sample (small 130kb file):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/81111485d1ce63/
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« Reply #141 on: Feb 26th, 2008, 3:50pm »

Hey, new to the forum and to making electronic music, but not music in general. Have some questions about Reason. I'm having trouble doing the ReWire to Ableton. It won't record my MIDI or audio. Any suggestions how to rewire? Also, does anybody have any settings for the synths and stuff on reason that theyd reccomend? Oh, and an ableton question too. Can i quantize and move around audio i record in ableton (from a source like my guitar or whatever) like i can with midi?
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« Reply #142 on: Feb 26th, 2008, 6:05pm »

on Feb 26th, 2008, 3:50pm, SGuitar wrote:
Hey, new to the forum and to making electronic music, but not music in general. Have some questions about Reason. I'm having trouble doing the ReWire to Ableton. It won't record my MIDI or audio. Any suggestions how to rewire? Also, does anybody have any settings for the synths and stuff on reason that theyd reccomend? Oh, and an ableton question too. Can i quantize and move around audio i record in ableton (from a source like my guitar or whatever) like i can with midi?


hmm, dunno if you can quantitize audio since i do most of my stuff in the box

and for rewire, open ableton, open reason, the in the bottom right corner of the arrangement window, theres a little circular button called i-o, click on it, you should see a new section in each channel pop up, then in the first blank open the drop down menu and select reason, and click in on the buttons below it, thatll send audio to ableton, for midi select reason for input again the select in then the instrument you want to control, hang on a sec, ill take a screenshot
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« Reply #143 on: Feb 26th, 2008, 6:22pm »

on Feb 25th, 2008, 8:26pm, naughts69 wrote:
hey taylor, a guestion for u and everyone else..

im trying to create a snare as big and sucking as sebastiAns - untitled (at the start)... I realise this is just mad compression maybe with some reverb.. I'm running logic so any help with the settings or stages would be greatly appreciated mate (Y)

MP3 sample (small 130kb file):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/81111485d1ce63/


well sample choice is important too, actually theres a bare snare on greel by sebastian, you could probably just EQ it to sound like the untitled one
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #144 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 6:12pm »

I've been wondering, what would you guys suggest to be the best sampling rate and bit rate to export your finished songs to?

Is 256 kbps bitrate
and 44.100 kHz okay or would it be better going max out and doing 320 kbps and 46.000 kHz?
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« Reply #145 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 6:29pm »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 6:12pm, R2RO wrote:
I've been wondering, what would you guys suggest to be the best sampling rate and bit rate to export your finished songs to?

Is 256 kbps bitrate
and 44.100 kHz okay or would it be better going max out and doing 320 kbps and 46.000 kHz?


320 at 44.1 is pretty much standard as far as mp3 goes

you could also just export to wav, i mean if you made the track yourself, why rob yourself by compressing it, use the least compressed version, unless is sounds better after compression
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« Reply #146 on: Feb 29th, 2008, 8:21pm »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 6:29pm, Taylor wrote:
320 at 44.1 is pretty much standard as far as mp3 goes

you could also just export to wav, i mean if you made the track yourself, why rob yourself by compressing it, use the least compressed version, unless is sounds better after compression


I haven't been way up to 320kpbs due to the fact that myspace won't take them if they're more than 6MB or more. It eats up your drive too but I intend to that later down the road when I start making solid material. Right now is just experimentation stage music. No Pro Tools yet due to musiciansfriend's damn back order.

One other question. This really shouldn't be on the this thread but fuck it, you post here alot too.

Would you think getting this http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pioneer-CDJ1000MK3DJM800-Package-with-Coffin-Case?sku=801622 would be the most top notch DJ setup you can get right now. I plan on getting this by May with Serato... I know it's Jesse and Al's setup.
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« Reply #147 on: Feb 29th, 2008, 10:20pm »

dude, you need to do it in 320, its retarded not to, then compress it for myspace afterwards

and that setup is like the standard, as far as decks go, the only things worth your time are technics and pioneer, as far as mixers go, thats up to you, ive become a big fan of A&H mixers just because theyre specifically designed for faster tempo music, but the 800 has some really good effects
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« Reply #148 on: Mar 2nd, 2008, 08:51am »

I'm assuming reason comes with a lot better and a lot more percussion sounds than the demo does? I really like the eclectic percussion of most mstrkrft songs, metro area, etc.
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« Reply #149 on: Mar 2nd, 2008, 7:44pm »

on Mar 2nd, 2008, 08:51am, SGuitar wrote:
I'm assuming reason comes with a lot better and a lot more percussion sounds than the demo does? I really like the eclectic percussion of most mstrkrft songs, metro area, etc.


mstrtkrfts percussion isnt too eclectic, if you want some pretty cool percussion check out boys noize, he uses the elektron machinedrum for his percussion so theres always some fun percs

and if if i were you i wouldnt use sounds that came with it, go out and hunt for some samples, it will help to build your "sound", there are some artists i can tell who it is just by the percussion and the samples they use
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