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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1515 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 01:10am »

It's a mixture of all of the above, but definitely make your song club friendly.

An intro never really needs much in it, but never forget the element of "fuck i can tell whats coming up" in the track.

Who here doesn't go "hell yes" when you start to here "you know ha ha ha how we do it, DO IT".

same with the cowbell / bongos in soulwax's any excuse or the synth / vocal line in boys noize remix of move my body.

When i make an intro i always try and put something in there which stands out over the other track i want to put it over.


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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1516 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 09:53am »

on Jun 1st, 2009, 4:12pm, nightwork wrote:
does anyone know anything about sound quality. ive been making electronic music since 12, and at 17 now, the only thing i have a problem with is my synths sounding like noise pollution. heres two examples made with the korg ms-20, styled a la mstrkrft so people can relate. "lalala pah" is very d.a.n.c.e. remix. they arent over compressed or over saturated, its almost the exact sound out of my synth. no matter what i do all my music sounds like a radio rip. two of them are sound samples i just exported and the other is an original track i did back in grade ten. all noise pollution
here are the tracks, streamed,

http://soundcloud.com/nightwork

anyways advice or any links would be much appreciated




the original track sounds an awful lot like harvest time by the bloody beetroots.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1517 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 10:41am »

on Jun 5th, 2009, 09:53am, TCOLE wrote:
the original track sounds an awful lot like harvest time by the bloody beetroots.

i thought so too
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« Reply #1518 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 1:01pm »

on Jun 5th, 2009, 10:41am, slyman wrote:
i thought so too


yeah sounds exactly like it...
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1519 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 08:05am »

Here's something I've been trying to accomplish for a while but haven't had much luck with-

Could anyone give me advice as to how to create a bass drum that sounds similar to the one used in "Lava lava" by Boys Noize?

I've tried several various EQ settings/manipulations on countless bass drums and still haven't come very close to that precise sound.


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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1520 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 08:05am »

does anyone know how to rewire plugins from reason like scream 4 or rv7000 into ableton and use them on a vst? i thought using the external audio effect plugin in ableton would do the job, but i cant seem to get it working.

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i finally figured it out. since you cant directly rewire audio into a reason plugin/effect i exported a sample and loaded it onto nnxt and wired the plugin on that.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1521 on: Jun 8th, 2009, 1:39pm »

on Jun 5th, 2009, 01:10am, cacophony wrote:
It's a mixture of all of the above, but definitely make your song club friendly.

An intro never really needs much in it, but never forget the element of "fuck i can tell whats coming up" in the track.

Who here doesn't go "hell yes" when you start to here "you know ha ha ha how we do it, DO IT".

same with the cowbell / bongos in soulwax's any excuse or the synth / vocal line in boys noize remix of move my body.

When i make an intro i always try and put something in there which stands out over the other track i want to put it over.




yeah I think that's where I run into trouble a lot when I'm making music I tend to start having things go off on little tangents here and there that get it out of groove. If you want I'll link you to the last full song I made with eldoogle. "Calling of the Sparrow" http://www.myspace.com/lostrhinomusic.

My friend "eldoogle" actually discouraged me from putting so many little things like that in there, but we came to a compromise, though now when I listen to it, I can hear how they distract.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1522 on: Jun 9th, 2009, 9:09pm »

on Jun 5th, 2009, 01:10am, cacophony wrote:
same with the cowbell / bongos in soulwax's any excuse or the synth / vocal line in boys noize remix of move my body.



so true!

ya'll know when mstrkrft drops the easy love cow bells during ugodzilla or w/e everyone goes crazy.
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« Reply #1523 on: Jun 10th, 2009, 5:44pm »

So here's Jape - Floating (DIM Remix)

http://hypem.com/#/search/Jape%20floating%20dim%20remix/1/

I love the drums in this track. they have an incredible driving force... but I can't seem to replicate the feel...

so before the 4/4 kick drum kicks in there's a snare, some kind of cymbal and this reverb loop it seems?

I can't really tell I've tried to create something that has that pumping feel but I can't... I don't know shit about the drums though so if someone could identify the instruments or perhaps the technique... i don't need exact sound but that pumping drum feel...

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1524 on: Jun 11th, 2009, 1:04pm »

on Jun 10th, 2009, 5:44pm, robotech wrote:
So here's Jape - Floating (DIM Remix)

http://hypem.com/#/search/Jape%20floating%20dim%20remix/1/

I love the drums in this track. they have an incredible driving force... but I can't seem to replicate the feel...

so before the 4/4 kick drum kicks in there's a snare, some kind of cymbal and this reverb loop it seems?

I can't really tell I've tried to create something that has that pumping feel but I can't... I don't know shit about the drums though so if someone could identify the instruments or perhaps the technique... i don't need exact sound but that pumping drum feel...

thanks a lot guys

lol i love that song i was trying to do the same thing like a week ago and failed.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1525 on: Jun 11th, 2009, 2:21pm »

on Jun 11th, 2009, 1:04pm, slyman wrote:
lol i love that song i was trying to do the same thing like a week ago and failed.


i think there's some kind of side chain going on on the that cymbal and the drums themselves about to try now get back to you on results later

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sounds kind of like this... just kind of...

http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/10304005/file.html

i think it's compression on the cymbal to give it that pumping feel and then some reverb and finding the right sounds i'll keep worknig at it let you know
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« Reply #1526 on: Jun 11th, 2009, 8:45pm »

sounds close i think it just needs some snares right before that whoosh part ends and then another one at the beginning of it somewhere maybe
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« Reply #1527 on: Jun 11th, 2009, 9:14pm »

I think it might be an lfo actually. Half note, linked to the hihat volume. The hats are actually playing straight 8th notes with an open hat on beats two and four. You can't hear the third hat hit because the lfo/automation is at the bottom of its cycle but you can hear the reverb tail from it when the volume opens up for the fourth 16th note.

There's also two other drums that could be filtered kicks or toms/snares of some sort. They're playing on the second and fourth 16th notes in beats two and four, as well as on beats 1 and 3.

He's using the reverb to fill up space and then the lfo/automation to make it swell. Pretty cool trick.
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EDIT: I JUST REALIZED THIS ISN'T THE WHERE I GO ON MUSHROOMS THREAD.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1528 on: Jun 11th, 2009, 11:29pm »

on Jun 11th, 2009, 9:14pm, Kyran wrote:
I think it might be an lfo actually. Half note, linked to the hihat volume. The hats are actually playing straight 8th notes with an open hat on beats two and four. You can't hear the third hat hit because the lfo/automation is at the bottom of its cycle but you can hear the reverb tail from it when the volume opens up for the fourth 16th note.

There's also two other drums that could be filtered kicks or toms/snares of some sort. They're playing on the second and fourth 16th notes in beats two and four, as well as on beats 1 and 3.

He's using the reverb to fill up space and then the lfo/automation to make it swell. Pretty cool trick.


kyran i can always count on your for great advice, thanks i will try it... on that note what can i use to LFO my drum machine (impulse) in ableton...

space effect?

http://space-effect-mac.lastdownload.com/'

EDIT: wait i figured it out i just sent it to predator fx... this is pretty cool i never thought about using LFO's on something like drums... great trick...

EDIT #2: thought about it couldn't you achieve the same effect by drawing in the automation pattern for volume in your DAW?
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« Reply #1529 on: Jun 12th, 2009, 10:19pm »

Yup.
Another cool trick I use sometimes to give a track a pulsating feel is to setup a reverb send with a lfo synced filter on it. The main signal is dry but there's reverb that's being filtered in swells. Helps give a track motion,
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