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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1785 on: Nov 2nd, 2009, 7:23pm »

Come on dude of course it's possible to master in Ableton that's a silly question *if that's even possible

Any software that supports the audio plugins you need or has them built in can master a track.

Ok so besides that Mastering is really like the final check on how your track is gonna come out... it basically involves multi band compression & limiting...

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on Nov 1st, 2009, 10:28pm, Biff wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has any experience mastering their tracks in Ableton (If that is even possible) I just finished a remix and I'm trying to get the parts where it clips all straightened out without fucking up the track, I tried using some of Ableton's preset mastering racks but since I don't know what I'm doing with them I was kind of hesitant to tweak anything on it them much.

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« Reply #1786 on: Nov 2nd, 2009, 8:10pm »

Ok so first thing I would say is expand the rack in Ableton and look at the tools they are using... for example the mastering rack 1 and 2 are basically all compression... multiband dynamics (compressor) limiter (compressor) then the utility plugin for gain, panning etc and an EQ

Using compression is how you are going to achieve the loudness you are seeking... it's about control of the dynamic range

You'll also need monitors and *in a perfect world where your parents were successful and buy you shit like the kids on cribs* a room that's set up for it...

It also helps to have tracks that you can compare to... I use 4 tracks that I've listened to on tons of different systems so I know they sound amazing

Easy Love by MSTRKRFT
The Reward is More Cheese by Deadmau5
Hells Bells by Arveene & Misk
Tits & Acid by SMD

But obviously you can use any track you like that sounds like the sound you are trying to get...

Read the manuals for the plugins you are using... I use the PSP Audioware Suite and the manuals had TONS of helpful information. Things I didn't know I had to know, and once you know the tools really well then using them will be much easier.











on Nov 1st, 2009, 10:28pm, Biff wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has any experience mastering their tracks in Ableton (If that is even possible) I just finished a remix and I'm trying to get the parts where it clips all straightened out without fucking up the track, I tried using some of Ableton's preset mastering racks but since I don't know what I'm doing with them I was kind of hesitant to tweak anything on it them much.

Here's the track
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=89021792745807aaed24a2875c7fa58ee04e75f6e8ebb871


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« Reply #1787 on: Nov 2nd, 2009, 9:07pm »

Ah lol, good

I wasn't sure at first if you could do mastering very well in Ableton since I always hear about people exporting their tunes from whatever DAW they use to protools.
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« Reply #1788 on: Nov 2nd, 2009, 10:49pm »

on Nov 2nd, 2009, 9:07pm, Biff wrote:
Ah lol, good

I wasn't sure at first if you could do mastering very well in Ableton since I always hear about people exporting their tunes from whatever DAW they use to protools.


It's a personal preference issue at that point. Some people swear by logics built it features, some by protools etc etc... i wish the logic plugins weren't written into the code so i could use them inside Ableton live
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« Reply #1789 on: Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:30am »

alright so i want to do the eq and mixdown on my track for the contest and i dont have monitors or good headphones so how should i go about doing this. i dont really kno where to start with making everything fit cuz i dont want to change the sound too much. once i get this done im going to get someone to master it for me.
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« Reply #1790 on: Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:02pm »

on Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:30am, slyman wrote:
alright so i want to do the eq and mixdown on my track for the contest and i dont have monitors or good headphones so how should i go about doing this. i dont really kno where to start with making everything fit cuz i dont want to change the sound too much. once i get this done im going to get someone to master it for me.


Mixing & Mastering are two different processes. If the track isn't MIXED properly then the MASTERING won't help much... MASTERING is the process of preparing the track to go onto a certain type of media... back in the day it was vinyl, then tape, cd... now mp3... know what I'm saying?

MIXING is the process of arranging the channels so that they fit together, don't interfere, etc etc...

There's a crossover area of course, you can MIX to make the MASTER easier but if you don't MIX the track right then no matter what you do a MASTER engineer won't be able to do much.

When you mix keep 3 things in mind... and think of it as a x,y,z graph or something... depth, height and width

you can say the width is panning/stereo field
depth is reverb
and height is frequency/eq/volume

I mean rough analogy but you get what I'm saying... you want to arrange the track so that it fills the 3d graph or box or whatever you want to see it as...

People arrange differently but a good way to learn is just look at pictures of studios and how they are set up... or how bands set up in real life... drums and singer in the middle... lead guitar right, bass left etc etc... you can do it however but having a reference point will help you.

I use a picture of dave matthew's drummer's drum kit when i set up my drum racks... it helps me to visualize







Print things and keep them handy, like notes...
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NOW what you should do is find a friend with monitors... cause there is no substitute for being able to hear what you are doing... then mix down then test test and test on different systems
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1791 on: Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:25pm »

Ableton + Vinyl... A cool little article

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/10/30/vinyl-ableton-ms-pinky-and-max-for-live-working-now/
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« Reply #1792 on: Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:42pm »

Where can I get support for all the diff codecs on my MAC like the K-lite codec pack for Windows?

I extracted the audio from the entire cowboy beebop series to use as samples and it won't register on my mac. I need to enable native support so I can chop it up in ableton or logic. It's AC3

Tried Perian but not working... sigh
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« Reply #1793 on: Nov 3rd, 2009, 10:02pm »

You'll probably have to use something like Audacity or Quicktime Pro to transcode to wav or aiff that logic/ableton can use natively. Audacity should be able to open AC3 files using the FFMPEG library.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1794 on: Nov 4th, 2009, 6:34pm »

i just dont like abletons interface for doing final mixdowns. also, logic has great mastering plugins.

shit, dont worry about plugins, ive seen great stuff done with just the built in plugs.
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« Reply #1795 on: Nov 4th, 2009, 6:44pm »

on Nov 4th, 2009, 6:34pm, Taylor wrote:
i just dont like abletons interface for doing final mixdowns. also, logic has great mastering plugins.

shit, dont worry about plugins, ive seen great stuff done with just the built in plugs.


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« Reply #1796 on: Nov 4th, 2009, 9:30pm »

on Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:02pm, robotech wrote:
Mixing & Mastering are two different processes. If the track isn't MIXED properly then the MASTERING won't help much... MASTERING is the process of preparing the track to go onto a certain type of media... back in the day it was vinyl, then tape, cd... now mp3... know what I'm saying?



Print things and keep them handy, like notes...
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NOW what you should do is find a friend with monitors... cause there is no substitute for being able to hear what you are doing... then mix down then test test and test on different systems


I think I mistook mastering for mixing as well, unfortunately when I tried to mix my track I ended up inadvertantly stripping it of the intended sound, now I don't know how to go back it sounds too clear and like soulless
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« Reply #1797 on: Nov 4th, 2009, 11:59pm »

on Nov 4th, 2009, 9:30pm, Biff wrote:
I think I mistook mastering for mixing as well, unfortunately when I tried to mix my track I ended up inadvertantly stripping it of the intended sound, now I don't know how to go back it sounds too clear and like soulless


Add some noise in the frequencies you are now missing. Look at your track through spectrum if you are using Ableton. post them so I can listen.
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« Reply #1798 on: Nov 5th, 2009, 6:13pm »

So i have my track's decently mixed, now when i want them mastered by someone do i send individual tracks or can i send the mixdown as a whole and have it mastered.
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« Reply #1799 on: Nov 6th, 2009, 2:17pm »

on Nov 5th, 2009, 6:13pm, CLiCKCLiCKBANG wrote:
So i have my track's decently mixed, now when i want them mastered by someone do i send individual tracks or can i send the mixdown as a whole and have it mastered.


Depends on the person. I like to have one copy of the artist mix down so I can get a feel of where he is trying to go with it.

He'll prob. charge you more if he is going to mix it for you as well... but you can just speak with them and find out.

Leave plenty of head room so that he's got room to work.

If you need a guy let me know a friend of mine masters audio for warner brothers he's amazing. Best resource in the world.
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