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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1815 on: Nov 11th, 2009, 7:40pm »

on Nov 11th, 2009, 7:11pm, Smiley Perv wrote:
I'm on production fire. Not just in music. In life.
Here's something I found really fucking useful.

http://web.forret.com/tools/bpm_tempo.asp


Wow this is EXTREMELY helpful. Thanks dude.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1816 on: Nov 12th, 2009, 11:37am »

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1817 on: Nov 12th, 2009, 10:23pm »

Anyone heard of Audioease speakerphone 2? That program looks nuts! As well as perfect to throw in crazy vocals in a track. Anyone have it/know where to get it?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1818 on: Nov 15th, 2009, 10:56am »

on Nov 8th, 2009, 1:52pm, Biff wrote:
[u]My knowledge of mixing stuff down/u]

ok so far here's how i'm trying to get my tracks mixed down, I've got a en EQ 8 an EQ 3, spectrum monitor and a compressor on each track, for mixing down. I've been soloing each track then with the cut buttons on the EQ 3 are listening to which EQ shelf of each track is most prominent and which parts can be turned down or compressed to make sonic room for other tracks in the mix, then I go to the EQ 8 tweaking it accordingly then listening to the whole sound of the track solo'd and then again with the rest of the music. Then going back and tweaking it some more with the EQ or compressing it to varying degrees.

Is this a good approach/ what am I doing wrong what should I be doing differently?


Personally, I'd suggest trying not to compress everything. If you compress too much, your audio ends up coming out lifeless and dull.
Spectrum analyzers are good but you dont really need them for each track. In reality, when you listen to your mix you are listening to the combination of all the sounds. Personally, I generally use no more than 2 spectrum monitors. I put one on the main instrumentation and one for the overall mix. In terms of compressors, dont go too crazy. If you want a massive sound you should try to compress as little as possible otherwise it comes out sounding flat and boring. For example, listen to any Wolfgang Gartner track. That guy barely even sidechains. The only obvious compressor he has is on his hi hat to give it that dirty digital sound when he hits it with his kick.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1819 on: Nov 15th, 2009, 11:08am »

on Nov 15th, 2009, 10:56am, Verdis wrote:
Personally, I'd suggest trying not to compress everything. If you compress too much, your audio ends up coming out lifeless and dull.
Spectrum analyzers are good but you dont really need them for each track. In reality, when you listen to your mix you are listening to the combination of all the sounds. Personally, I generally use no more than 2 spectrum monitors. I put one on the main instrumentation and one for the overall mix. In terms of compressors, dont go too crazy. If you want a massive sound you should try to compress as little as possible otherwise it comes out sounding flat and boring. For example, listen to any Wolfgang Gartner track. That guy barely even sidechains. The only obvious compressor he has is on his hi hat to give it that dirty digital sound when he hits it with his kick.


Terrible advice about spectrum monitors. You should have one on every single track on your mix including your master. Just make sure to keep them disabled when you're not using them because cheap ones can color your sound.

Where did you hear that about Wolfgang though? Interview? Link? I don't think that's exactly true but I'm interested in knowing what you do.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1820 on: Nov 15th, 2009, 11:29am »

on Nov 15th, 2009, 11:08am, Todd wrote:
Terrible advice about spectrum monitors. You should have one on every single track on your mix including your master. Just make sure to keep them disabled when you're not using them because cheap ones can color your sound.

Where did you hear that about Wolfgang though? Interview? Link?


I learned that first peice of info from Bob Rifos studio sessions with NT89 (the ones he told me about at least) and that second bit of info from just listening to any of his tracks. With the exception of firepower, all of his music is super clean.

Anyways, production is mostly opinion on what sounds good/what doesnt so who are you to tell anyone my advice is terrible?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1821 on: Nov 15th, 2009, 11:37am »

hey read this thread and it's great but wondering if I can ask Taylor a few specific questions about ableton? Mainly because it seemed like you are running a very similiar setup to what I'm running (or trying to run) o_O Tried msging you on last fm.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1822 on: Nov 15th, 2009, 12:48pm »

on Nov 15th, 2009, 11:29am, Verdis wrote:
I learned that first peice of info from Bob Rifos studio sessions with NT89 (the ones he told me about at least) and that second bit of info from just listening to any of his tracks. With the exception of firepower, all of his music is super clean.

Anyways, production is mostly opinion on what sounds good/what doesnt so who are you to tell anyone my advice is terrible?


i wouldn't argue with todd if i were you...after all, he is the best producer on this message board and thus his opinion is far more important than your pitiable remarks.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1823 on: Nov 15th, 2009, 4:26pm »

I dont like to double post, but my question is over a page and half back.

What do you guys think about NI Komplete (6) and Mercury plugins rather than say reason and other VSTs?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1824 on: Nov 16th, 2009, 4:44pm »

on Nov 15th, 2009, 12:48pm, ttime wrote:
i wouldn't argue with todd if i were you...after all, he is the best producer on this message board and thus his opinion is far more important than your pitiable remarks.



lollll how does todds dick taste? have you ever listened to anything verdis has produced, i'd argue that verdis knows what the hell he's talking about. isn't he at school for production/music stuffs?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1825 on: Nov 16th, 2009, 5:57pm »

on Nov 15th, 2009, 11:29am, Verdis wrote:
I learned that first peice of info from Bob Rifos studio sessions with NT89 (the ones he told me about at least) and that second bit of info from just listening to any of his tracks. With the exception of firepower, all of his music is super clean.

Anyways, production is mostly opinion on what sounds good/what doesnt so who are you to tell anyone my advice is terrible?


No clue about the studio sessions thing, never heard of it, but I know Wolfgang compresses and EQ's nearly everything at the source, then groups tracks and compresses them together (multiple times, he does complex routing alot), and then again on the master (if he's doing it himself). And he sidechains everything, he just doesn't use it as an effect, but as a utility just to make sure the kick stands out which is why you can't hear it.

Compression doesn't have to kill dynamics if you know what you're doing, it can be a way to create a certain tone and glue pieces of your puzzle together. Compression is the glue of stereo tracks like reverb is the glue of mono tracks.

on Nov 16th, 2009, 4:44pm, gavinmac wrote:
lollll how does todds dick taste? have you ever listened to anything verdis has produced, i'd argue that verdis knows what the hell he's talking about. isn't he at school for production/music stuffs?


He was being sarcastic. He doesn't like me.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1826 on: Nov 16th, 2009, 6:47pm »

on Nov 16th, 2009, 5:57pm, Todd wrote:
He was being sarcastic. He doesn't like me.


ahaha i had a feeling, it sounded almost sarcastic.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1827 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 12:09am »

ttime, just as a question, i dont post enough to have beef with anyone off the boards and i dont want any, but what gives you the right to be on todds ass all the time?

and if youd like to ignore that, i bought two technic 1200 mk2s today off craigslist, so upset. gotta buy that shit new
one of the motors is fucked up, pitch faders are all sticky, the ground wires are all frayed and have holes in the wire. should have checked that shit out more closely before buying
i guess its a lesson learned.
guy said hed take them back though. nice guy
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1828 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 12:49am »

on Nov 17th, 2009, 12:09am, 5th wrote:
ttime, just as a question, i dont post enough to have beef with anyone off the boards and i dont want any, but what gives you the right to be on todds ass all the time?

and if youd like to ignore that, i bought two technic 1200 mk2s today off craigslist, so upset. gotta buy that shit new
one of the motors is fucked up, pitch faders are all sticky, the ground wires are all frayed and have holes in the wire. should have checked that shit out more closely before buying
i guess its a lesson learned.
guy said hed take them back though. nice guy


Hmm well if you got a good deal on them think about keepin em. There are lots of service centers for them and I think motors are like 50 bucks. Pitch faders you can clean yourself with enough time.. but if the deal was so-so take em back and try again, they're always on craigs anyway.

And about that dude, I couldn't care less. I'm trying to get to 16 by summer anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxxPLDZnqwA

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1829 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 01:07am »

on Nov 15th, 2009, 4:26pm, The_IRA wrote:
I dont like to double post, but my question is over a page and half back.

What do you guys think about NI Komplete (6) and Mercury plugins rather than say reason and other VSTs?


I just use Kontact as a sampler from the series but I'm sure everything is fairly solid, NI's legit.
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