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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #195 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 2:04pm »

on Mar 16th, 2008, 3:08pm, LukeSwits wrote:
im looking for a program to plug in my guitar with my m-audio audio interface. im also planning on buying a midi keyboard, what program would you recommend?


get guitar rig 3, you can find it on torrents. the demo is available on native-instruments.com

a midi-keyboard is not a program. i just bought the novation remote 25 sl compact for $300 at a local store here, very very happy with it.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #196 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 2:10pm »

anyone got any tips for making bass lines?
any vsts (preferably for mac) that you find really nice?

maybe some good online tutorials.

how do you go about making your lines? ive got very little keyboard experience, so its pretty hard for me to figure out how to make something that sounds pretty decent. it'd be nice if i had a strong musical background, but hey, i don't
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« Reply #197 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:33pm »

on Mar 17th, 2008, 11:02pm, ttime wrote:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1174139


whenevr i click "setup" though, i get some kind of error =[

what could the problem be?
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« Reply #198 on: Mar 19th, 2008, 6:43pm »

I’ll try to help out with bass lines. I don’t know much about keyboard, so I hope this isn’t the blind leading the blind. I’ve been playing guitar for about a decade and bass whenever I’m needed to, so I might be able to help.
Let’s say you’re in the key of C to make it easy for the keyboard stuff.
Major Scale:
I II III IV V VI VII I
C D E F G A B C
Disco bass:
Disco basslines often rely on octaves, which means the same note but one lower and one higher (the two end of the above scale).
The lines are often very syncopated, meaning the emphasis is not on the downbeat. Eighth notes on the offbeat, sixteenth notes, etc. are used to create syncopation. Also, you can anticipate the down beat, playing the note that “should” fall on it slightly before the beat. Listen to Paris by mstrkrft, pretty syncopated.
Funk bass:
Simple funk idea is to not start on the root but a whole step before, then playing the root. So try a Bb on the first beat of a measure then on the next sixteenth note play the C, then syncopate the root (the C).
Movement:
Can’t stay on the tonic the whole time. IV and V are the most common chord changes in music, playing the V suggests resolution shortly to the I.
Color Notes:
Major Scale is boring. The 5 and b7 are interesting. Chromatic “stepping stone” notes are interesting. This type of note adds tension, movement.
Sidechain compression:
Typical in a lot of electro house because it gives space to the mix. The bass seems to breathe with the beat, fading with every kick of the bassdrum. For example, a good idea if your bassline focuses on longer notes, like half and whole notes.
I’ve also been noticing a lot of tense and dark distorted synth bass lines using more sustained notes, like half and whole notes. These seem to revolve around somewhat dissonant intervals, like half and whole steps.

Anyway, those are just basic ideas. I don't really make electronic music, but I do know a fair amount about music and am a regular performer. If they help, cool, if not, it doesn't hurt to read something. The link is a simple bass idea i made. Don't pay attention to the recording, arrangement, etc. Just created an example of a typical bass line. It uses octaves and syncopation.

synthbass.mp3 - 1.13MB

http://www.zshare.net/audio/9201789d73f8b0/
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #199 on: Mar 19th, 2008, 7:21pm »

a couple things about my post. i started off with a c scale, then never really talked about actual examples in C as was my intention, so the C thing isn't really helpful. Also, the recording I put up has all sorts of problems, including that really messed up synth that comes in at the end, not sure what happened there. should have listened to the recording first. still, the mp3 is an example of a electro/disco house-esque bassline and its context, employing the stuff I talked about. and why do i talk about disco and funk bass? that's what dance bass is built on. house bass lines are often really the same as disco.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #200 on: Mar 20th, 2008, 8:51pm »

on Mar 18th, 2008, 10:33pm, tron wrote:
whenevr i click "setup" though, i get some kind of error =[

what could the problem be?


maybe you are simply too foolish and thus unworthy of ableton. if not, i have no idea.
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« Reply #201 on: Mar 22nd, 2008, 01:47am »

i'm working on a ridiculous chromeo remix right now. its really eclectic and way different from any other chromeo remix ive heard so far... should be done by the end of this long weekend
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« Reply #202 on: Mar 22nd, 2008, 04:24am »

k i stayed up all night and finished my tenderoni remix, nothing compared to Al P's but its definitely got a different sound than most chromeo mixes, check it out here:

http://www.myspace.com/thetechnopagans
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« Reply #203 on: Mar 22nd, 2008, 1:47pm »

hey if anyone uses reason sometimes, this site is worth checking out, if you sign up they have a bunch of free patches which are pretty cool, all the classic synths. the company makes better ones that you can pay for, but id rather use these ones for now
http://reasonbanks.com/
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« Reply #204 on: Mar 22nd, 2008, 2:10pm »

on Mar 22nd, 2008, 04:24am, thetechnopagans wrote:
k i stayed up all night and finished my tenderoni remix, nothing compared to Al P's but its definitely got a different sound than most chromeo mixes, check it out here:

http://www.myspace.com/thetechnopagans
Sounds good. That bass line is so funky and discoesqu. I can't come up with stuff like that, it always sounds so dark and black. It must be because of my Death Metal background trying to make an influence on my new kind of music.

Good track though.
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« Reply #205 on: Mar 22nd, 2008, 2:46pm »

i actually took the guitar riff and made it the bass cuz the actual bass line is synth style on the track, and i loved the guitar on it.
I think i might add another synth in there somewhere later on, make it a little heavier at one point....
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #206 on: Mar 23rd, 2008, 11:09am »

heres a demo of a track im working on, tell me what u guys think. im still adding parts to it btw.

http://download.yousendit.com/0DBC84E7636A2AE9

thx
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« Reply #207 on: Mar 23rd, 2008, 12:12pm »

I think it sounds like the song is trying to get 'somewhere' but it never is. Perhaps it needs a climax . I think you should bring up your kick drum alot more too. I heard 'em on my monitors (M-Audio BX5a's) and I hear the low freq pretty well from the bass synth and the kicks are there but not punching as loud as I think they could be. That may just be me though.
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« Reply #208 on: Mar 23rd, 2008, 4:54pm »

ok guys, theres a reason theres a music swap section, i mean its alright to post a song if youre like "how do i get this sound, or hey check this out and tell me if it sounds right" but lets not get carried away, anyway, lets talk plugins

ive been making the switch to logic and let me just say its a bitch finding AU plugins, so i thought id make a list of a few cool free plugins

ok first one is orca by fxpansion, its really cool, great sound and the filters are just...i dunno, they arent knobs, the resonance and cutoff are represented by something that looks like, i think, a windpipe anyway, cool shit

www.fxpansion.com

then go to free stuff, you have to sign up but its no big deal, if youve got some kind of crazy objection to giving out your email adress im sure theres a torrent or something

since you cant have too many moog/ms20 emulations, asynth is a cool little freeware thingy developed by some guy whos name eludes me at the moment, anyway, its really class for a free plugin(this one only comes in a VST, but if you have a wrapper program, go crazy)

http://antti.smartelectronix.com/" target="_blank"> http://antti.smartelectronix.com/

alright, this one is a processing unit, its called the camelaudio camelcrusher and its basically distortion unit, for some reason most porgrams nowaday dont come with just a basic fucking distortion and its such a bitch yknow?

http://www.camelaudio.com/

word, if anyone has any obscure plugins that are free/badass/do some crazy cool shit, let us know
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #209 on: Mar 23rd, 2008, 5:22pm »

Taylor, muthafucka...

What do you think of Adobe Audition 3?
I wanna be different and learn the in and outs of that program.
That would be stupid to do so, seeing as I just got my MBOX Pro 2 Factory bundle from lying ass musiciansenemy.com (pun intended there)...
But Adobe Audition doesn't seem to be anything I hear anybody using. I wanna be that dare devil.
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