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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1950 on: Dec 25th, 2009, 10:07pm »

on Dec 22nd, 2009, 3:03pm, Mauricio wrote:
Wanted to show you guys this: It's not my original concept I have to give credit to wildtek for the concept and nitzua for the wallpaper... i saw this and I though it would be awesome if it didn't look like shit. so i made it into this:
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still working out the kinks, and gonna make a mac version later today. Also gonna release the .ai file so people can put their own backgrounds in it.

it was this
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thats one badass wallpaper. great idea
cant wait for the mac bg
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1951 on: Dec 25th, 2009, 11:23pm »

on Dec 25th, 2009, 10:07pm, 5th wrote:
thats one badass wallpaper. great idea
cant wait for the mac bg


Thanks man. Here's the link.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/880/abletonwallpaperconcept.jpg

They take it down if you get more than 300 hits a day I think. If anyone knows a place I can host it unlimited style but still keep the resolution let me know.

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okay image in imagedonkey:

http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php?i=31633_ABLETONWALLPAPERCONCEPT.jpg
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1952 on: Dec 26th, 2009, 10:50am »

on Dec 25th, 2009, 11:23pm, Mauricio wrote:
Thanks man. Here's the link.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/880/abletonwallpaperconcept.jpg

They take it down if you get more than 300 hits a day I think. If anyone knows a place I can host it unlimited style but still keep the resolution let me know.


You could host it on photobucket, you just need to make a free account and make it viewable to anyone.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1953 on: Dec 26th, 2009, 11:40am »

on Dec 26th, 2009, 10:50am, The_IRA wrote:
You could host it on photobucket, you just need to make a free account and make it viewable to anyone.


I have a photobucket account but it doesn't support the resolution of the wallpaper... it's like 2000x something... imageshack leaves it intact... maybe i'll just buy and account, but my website will be up soon so I'll start hosting it there too...
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1954 on: Dec 26th, 2009, 11:52am »

try imagedonkey. it's run by a friend of mine and will let you upload anything of any resolution and have unlimited bandwith. be careful though, it's riddled with porn and nsfw.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1955 on: Dec 26th, 2009, 1:19pm »

Just installed a Waves plugin bundle. Loaded em up into ableton. Opened up some just to see what they look like, some worked, but others loaded a window that was see through.

I did get an error at the end of the installation about some activeX thing, but I skipped it since I used to game it up so I have the latest activeX.

So is there some type of special activeX that didnt work and thats why I cant see the interface of the waves plugin?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1956 on: Dec 26th, 2009, 4:36pm »

on Dec 26th, 2009, 1:19pm, The_IRA wrote:
Just installed a Waves plugin bundle. Loaded em up into ableton. Opened up some just to see what they look like, some worked, but others loaded a window that was see through.

I did get an error at the end of the installation about some activeX thing, but I skipped it since I used to game it up so I have the latest activeX.

So is there some type of special activeX that didnt work and thats why I cant see the interface of the waves plugin?


that happens to me sometimes with the waves plugins. i can fix it usually by opening or closing, or dragging the window around. or take another window and drag it across the other window.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1957 on: Dec 26th, 2009, 4:53pm »

Ok, so I'm about to buy this

http://www.geminidj.com/cdmp6000.html

I think it's 420 bucks. Does anyone have experience with them. And are they what I should get? These are the first cdjs I've got, I'm about to buy them probably tomorrow.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1958 on: Dec 26th, 2009, 10:50pm »

This sounds absolutely god awful, i know I sound stupid, but it's the only way to articulate my question:

What do I have to have software/hardware wise to be like sebastiAn?

He produces some of the best stuff IMO, and I don't want to bite his sound, but I want to do some creative shit, and I know I wanna go in 'his' direction.

Don't lampoon me. I basically wanna know how to dj and some simple beginner tools that are powerful enough to be used with the big boys without being too expensive. Any points in the right direction would help me so much. I just need some direction.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1959 on: Dec 27th, 2009, 10:52am »

on Dec 26th, 2009, 10:50pm, Timo wrote:
This sounds absolutely god awful, i know I sound stupid, but it's the only way to articulate my question:

What do I have to have software/hardware wise to be like sebastiAn?

He produces some of the best stuff IMO, and I don't want to bite his sound, but I want to do some creative shit, and I know I wanna go in 'his' direction.

Don't lampoon me. I basically wanna know how to dj and some simple beginner tools that are powerful enough to be used with the big boys without being too expensive. Any points in the right direction would help me so much. I just need some direction.


Well before making general posts like this I suggest doing your research. If you want to know how to DJ I suggest you find what style you want to do. Dont just copy someone's set up just because you want to sound like them because you can sound like someone with a completely different set up.

For DJing look up if you want to use Vinyl, time encoded vinyl, CDs, or just pure mp3. If youre mp3 vinyl go look up Traktor scratch pro or Serato. CDs you prob want some CDJs. Pure mp3 look up something like Traktro pro and some midi imputs.

For making music I suggest reading this beginning of this thread, and possibly throughout it. Also go to this thread to catch up on music making.

http://mstrkrft.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1259822963

Oh yea, and FYI you can copy someone exactly to what they do to sound like them with their same hardware, but to sound like yourself you need to find what gear is right for you. You need to realize that lots of hard/software do the same thing, so you dont need to copy someone's set up. Thats a beginner's first mistake. Do your research, find out what works for you.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1960 on: Dec 27th, 2009, 10:58am »

on Dec 26th, 2009, 4:36pm, LukeSwits wrote:
that happens to me sometimes with the waves plugins. i can fix it usually by opening or closing, or dragging the window around. or take another window and drag it across the other window.


Did all of those, still nothing. Just a window cover with a invisible centers. Maybe I should reinstall.

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I plan on mixing with some headphones rather than studio monitors for at least a year+. So far from research I have found a handful of good views on the AKG 240, 272, 601, 701, and 702.. or Beyerdynamic DT 100, or cheaper Sennheiser HD 280 Pro...
--> What do you guys think of any of these? I am going towards more of the AKG 601s from what I heard.

--> Does the NI Audio 4 DJ act like an external sound card so I could use it to DJ and in the studio?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1961 on: Dec 29th, 2009, 11:35am »

on Dec 26th, 2009, 10:50pm, Timo wrote:
This sounds absolutely god awful, i know I sound stupid, but it's the only way to articulate my question:

What do I have to have software/hardware wise to be like sebastiAn?

He produces some of the best stuff IMO, and I don't want to bite his sound, but I want to do some creative shit, and I know I wanna go in 'his' direction.

Don't lampoon me. I basically wanna know how to dj and some simple beginner tools that are powerful enough to be used with the big boys without being too expensive. Any points in the right direction would help me so much. I just need some direction.


It's more your technique and use of your materials than what DAW you use.

I know SebastiAn uses logic and a lot of chopped up samples, that's about it.

download some different songs with strings in them and some with good drum sounds, try chopping them up, rearranging them, compressing them, messing with them etc.

try launching samples with a good compressed ph/fat kick to get that sort of "Ross Ross Ross" like punchy sound.

It's okay to try and emulate somebody, or even straight up try and copy what their doing as an exercise, often it's when you're experimenting trying to get a certain sound that you find some other sound that sounds awesome and you want to roll with and then it's all your own.

but yeah I'd recommend messing around with chopped up samples. I believe someone asked a question like this one time in the JFK Q's thread to which JFK said that SebastiAn uses Logic like a 4track and records and records and samples things over and over again on top of each other or something like that.

Someone should provide a link to that posting.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1962 on: Dec 29th, 2009, 2:04pm »

Basically the SebastiAn sound is importing samples, chopping them up, processing them, resample, repeat. For something like that your main concern would be being able to edit audio together very easily. Something like FL would suck balls for this. Pro Tools or Reaper have pretty smooth audio editing, as do many other programs. As stated before, it's not necessarily the tools but how you use them, you could get the same effect from many different pieces of software. What matters most is what's easiest for you and produces the best results.

So download some demos and see what you like. Reaper is an awesome program, cheap as hell, really intuitive, doesn't require specific hardware like Pro Tools, gets updated frequently, skinnable, etc. You can download a fully functional demo from their site.

Also for that SebastiAn style, you'll need to know about compression (and how to use way too much of it ) When you're getting into heavy compression, it's important to keep a balance between frequencies and especially take care not to wreck the bass. Multiband compression is your friend here. A Waves Linear Multiband across the master buss is my favorite tool for the job.

Of course, just starting out there a lot of things you'll need to learn before you even get close so read some tutorials, read this thread, etc. We'll see you in 6 months with some specific questions about production and be able to give you more specific answers.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1963 on: Dec 30th, 2009, 12:47pm »

Does anyone know of a really high quality pitch bend vst? Some of my favorite software synths are sadly lacking.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1964 on: Dec 30th, 2009, 2:07pm »

on Dec 30th, 2009, 12:47pm, Bismarck wrote:
Does anyone know of a really high quality pitch bend vst? Some of my favorite software synths are sadly lacking.


like this?

http://bram.smartelectronix.com/plugins.php?id=2
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