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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2010 on: Jan 22nd, 2010, 12:15pm »

on Jan 21st, 2010, 1:45pm, Todd wrote:
but most of the time you'll find that you'll pick the one that's in key without even knowing it.



very good observation and very true. the process of building a drum rack is very much finding sounds that "fit" and "feel" right. i.e. are in key

Like deadmau5 says: if it sounds good use it, if it doesn't, well then load up another patch.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2011 on: Jan 23rd, 2010, 12:58am »

Just got some new sample packs.

Which ones are you guys liking right now?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2012 on: Jan 23rd, 2010, 03:02am »

am i the only dude who shapes his own drum sounds from real drum machines? i can't stand that tech-house #1-on-beatport sample pack sound
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2013 on: Jan 23rd, 2010, 11:07am »

Which drum machines?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2014 on: Jan 23rd, 2010, 12:40pm »

on Jan 23rd, 2010, 12:58am, michaelhuman wrote:
Just got some new sample packs.

Which ones are you guys liking right now?


alot of the loopmasters ones are good, esp. loopmasters fidget house, and the deadmau5 sample pack is pretty sick as well.of course vengeance has some great ones too.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2015 on: Jan 23rd, 2010, 6:31pm »

Yeah, the Vengeance samples are amazing, just torrent that shit and you should get all the sample packs in .wav format....Vangeance packs are badass.

By the way, where did you get a hold of that 'Deadmau5' sample pack?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2016 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 01:02am »

on Jan 23rd, 2010, 6:31pm, zigzagg wrote:
Yeah, the Vengeance samples are amazing, just torrent that shit and you should get all the sample packs in .wav format....Vangeance packs are badass.

By the way, where did you get a hold of that 'Deadmau5' sample pack?


you could buy it, but i just torrented it. it's everywhere. make sure you dont get a fake one though.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2017 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 04:42am »

on Jan 23rd, 2010, 12:58am, michaelhuman wrote:
Just got some new sample packs.

Which ones are you guys liking right now?


Get the Thomas Penton's Essential Drums & Percussion. It's great.
And listen to Makossa and Megablast. They have the dopest sounds. They make them all themselves. So orignal.
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« Reply #2018 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 08:09am »

Yeah the Vengeance Electroshock & Fidget House Vol 2 are sounding pretty decent right now.

I'll check out the Thomas Penton's packs. The demos sounds pretty good.

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« Reply #2019 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 09:16am »

on Jan 24th, 2010, 04:42am, Mauricio wrote:
Get the Thomas Penton's Essential Drums & Percussion. It's great.
And listen to Makossa and Megablast. They have the dopest sounds. They make them all themselves. So orignal.



Good call dude. The Penton Pack is really nice!
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2020 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 11:22am »

Questions Stereo/mono:
-When is it a good time to put something in "Mono" as compared to "Stereo?"
-Also, I have heard people say "Listen to your mix in mono and make sure it sounds good there too." Are they saying to make sure you dont go out of phase or something when people listen to it in mono?
-How would you fix any of these problems from the above questions?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2021 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 1:23pm »

on Jan 24th, 2010, 11:22am, The_IRA wrote:
Questions Stereo/mono:
-When is it a good time to put something in "Mono" as compared to "Stereo?"
-Also, I have heard people say "Listen to your mix in mono and make sure it sounds good there too." Are they saying to make sure you dont go out of phase or something when people listen to it in mono?
-How would you fix any of these problems from the above questions?


below a certain frequency approx 80hz bass becomes "non directional" if you mono the sound below that range it will have a particular effect.... try it and see what it does... I've found it can really improve my low end if i layer it. if you want certain things to pop out, then mono some of the sounds around it... it's often used as a placement technique.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2022 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 5:20pm »

Affective Key Characteristics

Besides all the christian references it's interesting to break it down like this.

http://www.wmich.edu/mus-theo/courses/keys.html

from Christian Schubart's Ideen zu einer Aesthetik der Tonkunst (1806)

C Major
Completely Pure. Its character is: innocence, simplicity, na�vety, children's talk.

C Minor
Declaration of love and at the same time the lament of unhappy love. All languishing, longing, sighing of the love-sick soul lies in this key.

Db Major
A leering key, degenerating into grief and rapture. It cannot laugh, but it can smile; it cannot howl, but it can at least grimace its crying.--Consequently only unusual characters and feelings can be brought out in this key.

C# Minor
Penitential lamentation, intimate conversation with God, the friend and help-meet of life; sighs of disappointed friendship and love lie in its radius.

D Major
The key of triumph, of Hallejuahs, of war-cries, of victory-rejoicing. Thus, the inviting symphonies, the marches, holiday songs and heaven-rejoicing choruses are set in this key.

D Minor
Melancholy womanliness, the spleen and humours brood.

Eb Major
The key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God.

D# Minor
Feelings of the anxiety of the soul's deepest distress, of brooding despair, of blackest depression, of the most gloomy condition of the soul. Every fear, every hesitation of the shuddering heart, breathes out of horrible D# minor. If ghosts could speak, their speech would approximate this key.

E Major
Noisy shouts of joy, laughing pleasure and not yet complete, full delight lies in E Major.

E minor
Na�ve, womanly innocent declaration of love, lament without grumbling; sighs accompanied by few tears; this key speaks of the imminent hope of resolving in the pure happiness of C major.
F Major
Complaisance & Calm.

F Minor
Deep depression, funereal lament, groans of misery and longing for the grave.

F# Major
Triumph over difficulty, free sigh of relief utered when hurdles are surmounted; echo of a soul which has fiercely struggled and finally conquered lies in all uses of this key.

F# Minor
A gloomy key: it tugs at passion as a dog biting a dress. Resentment and discontent are its language.

G Major
Everything rustic, idyllic and lyrical, every calm and satisfied passion, every tender gratitude for true friendship and faithful love,--in a word every gentle and peaceful emotion of the heart is correctly expressed by this key.

G Minor
Discontent, uneasiness, worry about a failed scheme; bad-tempered gnashing of teeth; in a word: resentment and dislike.

Ab Major
Key of the grave. Death, grave, putrefaction, judgment, eternity lie in its radius.

Ab Minor
Grumbler, heart squeezed until it suffocates; wailing lament, difficult struggle; in a word, the color of this key is everything struggling with difficulty.

A Major
This key includes declarations of innocent love, satisfaction with one's state of affairs; hope of seeing one's beloved again when parting; youthful cheerfulness and trust in God.
A minor
Pious womanliness and tenderness of character.

Bb Major
Cheerful love, clear conscience, hope aspiration for a better world.

Bb minor
A quaint creature, often dressed in the garment of night. It is somewhat surly and very seldom takes on a pleasant countenance. Mocking God and the world; discontented with itself and with everything; preparation for suicide sounds in this key.

B Major
Strongly coloured, announcing wild passions, composed from the most glaring coulors. Anger, rage, jealousy, fury, despair and every burden of the heart lies in its sphere.
B Minor
This is as it were the key of patience, of calm awaiting ones's fate and of submission to divine dispensation.

Translated by Rita Steblin in A History of Key Characteristics in the 18th and Early 19th Centuries. UMI Research Press (1983).
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2023 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 12:25am »

^ lol that's so ridiculous. pretty poetic though. does everyone here make dance music or does anyone here make experimental/ambient type stuff? i just started getting into that recently and i'm really liking it, its so fun to make. i feel alot less limited than when i make dance music.
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« Reply #2024 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 01:49am »

^^Added to the Link thread.
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