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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2295 on: Apr 17th, 2010, 6:54pm »

on Apr 16th, 2010, 1:40pm, SUNE@L wrote:
hello people of the "making electronic music" thread

i'm trying to get more into this whole producing thing, and since i'm a drummer i thought i would redo the drums on the track "round table knights - calypso". So, i did this, but it sounds... flat? I feel like the sounds aren't able to breathe, if that makes any sense.

how do i fix this? does it have to do with mastering? mixing? panning? (imma noob)

http://www.mediafire.com/?mmoyyjwzomm

and the changes i made start at like 2:15

THANKS


Need to remove low end from things. I hear a lot of low frequencies clashing to cause the muddy. Make sure you cut off with filter/EQ of all the stuff that doesnt need the low end.

Also the drums could come up in volume. Just from listening to the original in the beginning and then jumping to yours you can hear the differences.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2296 on: Apr 18th, 2010, 11:45am »

Okay so i've been meaning to post about this lately.

In my opinion i think this song has perfect kick to bass ratio. How can i achieve something like this?? Oh and how can i emulate the bass at the drop on massive??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRUSViQewVw
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2297 on: Apr 18th, 2010, 3:48pm »

on Apr 17th, 2010, 6:54pm, The_IRA wrote:
Need to remove low end from things. I hear a lot of low frequencies clashing to cause the muddy. Make sure you cut off with filter/EQ of all the stuff that doesnt need the low end.

Also the drums could come up in volume. Just from listening to the original in the beginning and then jumping to yours you can hear the differences.


aghhhhhhhh i gave this a try, but its still sounding pretty brutal imo. I've spent a stupid amount of time just trying to make the production sound half decent with no results... i think its time to hold off on producing till i get my hands on a better DAW.

Thanks for the advice though dude.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2298 on: Apr 21st, 2010, 9:01pm »

on Apr 7th, 2010, 9:35pm, bdk wrote:
What's so good about it?


What's good about it. All you have to do is start running some of those plug-ins
A / B them with your logic one and you can here the difference.

ESP the SSL master bus is a really good to you as a musical compressor
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2299 on: Apr 22nd, 2010, 12:49am »

Ugh, I think I'm back. I've been lurking again and not posting.

I'm making the move to Ableton, I'm kinda nervous, but I need to learn a new DAW.

I've considered going Logic/Mac based, but I don't know if I feel like investing in Logic and a new big ass monitor. I'd have to go with a large ass monitor because I'd be running off of a 17 MBP, and they can only support on monitor other than the on board one, and I love the dual monitor setup for producing.

Decisions, decisions.

Gotta get one it, I have a ton of ideas that I want to bring to life.

If you guys have any suggestions on what to do, LMK.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2300 on: Apr 22nd, 2010, 4:13pm »

im nervous aswell. im about to pay for a numark stealth but i still have my eye on the vci 100.

suggestions?
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« Reply #2301 on: Apr 22nd, 2010, 5:45pm »

on Apr 22nd, 2010, 12:49am, Logan wrote:
If you guys have any suggestions on what to do, LMK.

_Logan


I am not a mac person, and you might have read that on the thread. I have always wanted to try Logic since I have seen so many producers use it, however I am an Ableton guy. I think ableton brings a lot to the table. You can do lots of stuff with it in many creative ways. Runs every VST plugin and has a great layout.

I suggest either watching some how to videos to get an idea of the work flow on each to see what your liking is. I have found ableton is pretty straight forward in learning a DAW, so it was fast for me. When comes down to DAWs, whatever you like most visually and with work flow will give you the best product "for you."

on Apr 22nd, 2010, 4:13pm, 130BPMZ wrote:
im nervous aswell. im about to pay for a numark stealth but i still have my eye on the vci 100.

suggestions?


I just looked it up and I have heard some good things about the numark stealth. I personally have not used it, but if you get it from guitar center so you will have a 3year warranty on it. Also guitar center will match prices, so just send them an email with the link to a cheaper site selling them (legit site) and get fatty discount.

So if it looks like something that fits your liking and your layout for a midi controller, go for it.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2302 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 2:23pm »

on Apr 22nd, 2010, 12:49am, Logan wrote:
Ugh, I think I'm back. I've been lurking again and not posting.

I'm making the move to Ableton, I'm kinda nervous, but I need to learn a new DAW.

I've considered going Logic/Mac based, but I don't know if I feel like investing in Logic and a new big ass monitor. I'd have to go with a large ass monitor because I'd be running off of a 17 MBP, and they can only support on monitor other than the on board one, and I love the dual monitor setup for producing.

Decisions, decisions.

Gotta get one it, I have a ton of ideas that I want to bring to life.

If you guys have any suggestions on what to do, LMK.

_Logan


I have run Logic for a while and i'm super happy with it. What it comes down to is what you can get out of it. People don't hear logic they hear your music the don't hear ableton they hear your music most people outside of music production wouldn't even know what Ableton or Logic is. Just find the software that meets your needs and learn everything about it, inside and out.

Rusko uses a sony DAW to make his stuff and Tocadisco is running a version of Logic that is super old and it is working for them.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2303 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 4:30pm »

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 2:23pm, will666 wrote:
Rusko uses a sony DAW to make his stuff and Tocadisco is running a version of Logic that is super old and it is working for them.


Amen. I mostly care about looks. If it looks cool I use it. Hence why I chose ableton... it matches the screen on my mac pro... haha

Waves complete is a little too *complete... besides the renaissance shit and the L2 what would you keep? Is there a plug in there that's like that vocal box one that has all those bad ass vocal fxs that make shit sound like it's coming through a speakerbox... i think it may be called speaker box.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2304 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 6:28pm »

I agree completely, but they problem is I tell people I use FL and they immidiately think im a worse producer haha. Plus, I'm interested in something new, not exactly better.

Thanks!

_Logan

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 2:23pm, will666 wrote:
I have run Logic for a while and i'm super happy with it. What it comes down to is what you can get out of it. People don't hear logic they hear your music the don't hear ableton they hear your music most people outside of music production wouldn't even know what Ableton or Logic is. Just find the software that meets your needs and learn everything about it, inside and out.

Rusko uses a sony DAW to make his stuff and Tocadisco is running a version of Logic that is super old and it is working for them.


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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2305 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 7:02pm »

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 6:28pm, Logan wrote:
I agree completely, but they problem is I tell people I use FL and they immidiately think im a worse producer haha. Plus, I'm interested in something new, not exactly better.

Thanks!

_Logan





haha just be like "hey so does laid back luke so fuck off"

the only problem with fruity loops is the name. it's like if ableton named it's self "Silly Bleeps"

FL should seriously consider changing the name
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2306 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 8:28pm »

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 6:28pm, Logan wrote:
I agree completely, but they problem is I tell people I use FL and they immidiately think im a worse producer haha. Plus, I'm interested in something new, not exactly better.

Thanks!

_Logan




Listen to Spor and tell me he's a shitty producer
http://youtube.ca/watch?v=0mFZpRlYRv8&hd=1
That shit is like too produced for some people to handle. Turn that shit up and rinse your subs if you got it. Anything shittier than a macbook speak or lower, don't bother.
The interval expressed mathematically would be ( Macbook, Rumbling Dub System ]
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Technically it's just named FL Studio which isn't really that gay but it's not really enough of a change, it just sounds like you don't want to say the name so you use the initials.
I think it has pretty awesome midi editing. Sometimes I run it in rewire mode although I'm trying to get used to Reaper's midi editing (individual note velocity is weh betta with Reapa)

If you're looking for a new DAW, give Reaper a try. I imagine you can find me or someone else moaning about its benefits on here or another site. Good audio engine, records super easy so you can resample, tracks can hold whatever you want (audio, midi, automation, etc.) multiple different types of data on the same track. You don't have to worry about, "Oh shit is this an aux track? Wait... where is that send going to? Do I make it an instrument track or a midi track?"
It's just one kind of track, the "I Just Double Clicked Mothafucka!" Omni Track. Ins and Outs are managed really well and you can use a routing matrix if you want to get really complicated.

Oh yeah, It hosts almost every kind of effect, has its own included effects with awesome utility tools like audio midi triggers too.

And it gets updated like every month with new features requested by the users.

um yeah it's skinnable too, so you can make it look like Ableton or Pro Tools or your Aunt Millie's cows...
See? It just causes people to spill out bromance uncontrollably.


tl; dr: Reaper = yummy like pancakes and pterodactlys!


on Apr 23rd, 2010, 4:30pm, Mauricio wrote:
Amen. I mostly care about looks. If it looks cool I use it. Hence why I chose ableton... it matches the screen on my mac pro... haha

Waves complete is a little too *complete... besides the renaissance shit and the L2 what would you keep? Is there a plug in there that's like that vocal box one that has all those bad ass vocal fxs that make shit sound like it's coming through a speakerbox... i think it may be called speaker box.

Keep the LinMB fo sho, it's sex for mastering. Plus C1, Convolution Reverb if you like, TransX, the S1 shuffler if you're into Mid/Side processing, the Eqs are good, throw in a C4 for individual track multicompression (LinMB has latency by design so it'll put things out of sync unless it's on the Master)
I don't know about the new shit though, that's just all the really useful stuff. If you think flangers or some shit is useful then grab that too. All the vintage stuff sounds nice.
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
EDIT: I JUST REALIZED THIS ISN'T THE WHERE I GO ON MUSHROOMS THREAD.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2307 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 9:02pm »

shiiiiiiiiat

i'm gonna go see sinden tonight.

going through reading the waves manuals... gate this... arc this... they have like two dozen dynamic fxs...

i don't know shit about reverb... pretty much go through the presets tll i'm like eh that sounds nice. It's almost like I've maxed out my brains capacity for music knowledge in one year. I need to take a techno-less vacation and go on a peace retreat or something.



this dude is one the waves website as "meet joseph puig"

doesn't he look like one of the "dick in a box" dudes?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2308 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 10:11pm »

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 7:02pm, Mauricio wrote:
FL should seriously consider changing the name


its official name is FL studio now iirc.

alright motherfuckers, bussing and sends. discuss.

how do you guys bus your tracks and which FX do you put on sends/which do you put on inserts?
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« Reply #2309 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 11:05pm »

If I want to process the reverb tail it'll go on a send, otherwise I usually use inserts just for convenience. Any special effects would just depend on the context.
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