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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2310 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 11:29pm »

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 10:11pm, Taylor wrote:
its official name is FL studio now iirc.

alright motherfuckers, bussing and sends. discuss.

how do you guys bus your tracks and which FX do you put on sends/which do you put on inserts?


Reverb fo sho. I have really tried this yet on a finished track, but the idea of having a bus compression that isnt the main channel to bring everything closer together, but only have a small amount going there.

Any basic effect I usually bus, like maybe a saturator.
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« Reply #2311 on: Apr 24th, 2010, 2:34pm »

does anyone know a reasonable price for a pair of working used Yamaha NS10s?

i saw a pair for $400 which seems to me like a pretty good price, but i don't know for sure.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2312 on: Apr 24th, 2010, 6:33pm »

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 4:30pm, Mauricio wrote:
Waves complete is a little too *complete... besides the renaissance shit and the L2 what would you keep? Is there a plug in there that's like that vocal box one that has all those bad ass vocal fxs that make shit sound like it's coming through a speakerbox... i think it may be called speaker box.


I use a bunch of the different compressors the SSL stuff is great the master bus channel compressor is really good for getting that pumping feeling to your track. There is also some really great compressors for drum and vocals that is really really good. The more you research about different plugs you might find yourself going to once compressor for vocals one for drums one for bass and so on and so on. When i started producing i went to logic for everything every time but now I'm getting in it more and scratching the surface a little more i'm turning to different compressors eq's and reverbs for different sounds. There is a bunch in the wave's complete that i probably will not use but there is a bunch that i'm using now and i'm getting some real nice results.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2313 on: Apr 24th, 2010, 6:35pm »

on Apr 24th, 2010, 2:34pm, gavinmac wrote:
does anyone know a reasonable price for a pair of working used Yamaha NS10s?

i saw a pair for $400 which seems to me like a pretty good price, but i don't know for sure.


If there in good condition that is a great price but be very careful for that price they might be a little on the worn side.
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« Reply #2314 on: Apr 25th, 2010, 7:49pm »

Thought this was good thought/quote:

"...music made with high-end gear generally sounds better than music made with low-end gear. There is an undeniable correlation.

However, do not make the mistake of assuming correlation implies causality.

High-end gear only makes music sound good because the engineers choose and operate the high-end gear. Top engineers choose high-end gear because it helps them get the sound they want. Thereís a point that Iím making in framing that statement Ė itís the engineer that gets the sound, and they get it by using the gear. The sound comes from the engineer, not from the gear. "
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2315 on: Apr 25th, 2010, 8:29pm »

Nuh uh! The sound comes from the Waves L2 when it's showing 26 dB of gain reduction!
Between 22 and 31 dBs is what the pros in the industry like to call "The Talent Zone".
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
EDIT: I JUST REALIZED THIS ISN'T THE WHERE I GO ON MUSHROOMS THREAD.
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« Reply #2316 on: Apr 25th, 2010, 8:46pm »

on Apr 25th, 2010, 7:49pm, The_IRA wrote:
Thought this was good thought/quote:

"...music made with high-end gear generally sounds better than music made with low-end gear. There is an undeniable correlation.

However, do not make the mistake of assuming correlation implies causality.

High-end gear only makes music sound good because the engineers choose and operate the high-end gear. Top engineers choose high-end gear because it helps them get the sound they want. Thereís a point that Iím making in framing that statement Ė itís the engineer that gets the sound, and they get it by using the gear. The sound comes from the engineer, not from the gear. "



So just to confirm this in my head you think that a engineer could get the same results from say a SSL mixer like this one (http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/xlogic%20x-desk/) in a behringer mixer like this one (http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/1222FX.aspx) i just want to make sure i read this correctly.
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« Reply #2317 on: Apr 25th, 2010, 11:15pm »

on Apr 25th, 2010, 8:46pm, will666 wrote:
So just to confirm this in my head you think that a engineer could get the same results from say a SSL mixer like this one (http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/xlogic%20x-desk/) in a behringer mixer like this one (http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/1222FX.aspx) i just want to make sure i read this correctly.


daft punk mixed discovery on a mackie 1202 and logic and it sounds pretty OK
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2318 on: Apr 26th, 2010, 06:43am »

i don't think that the mackie 1202 is a shit piece of gear there is a bunch of guys that still run there sound through the mackie.
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« Reply #2319 on: Apr 26th, 2010, 09:13am »

on Apr 26th, 2010, 06:43am, will666 wrote:
i don't think that the mackie 1202 is a shit piece of gear there is a bunch of guys that still run there sound through the mackie.


it is a piece of shit unless you're after its very specific sound. i have one, i use it religiously, but i'd never mix a rock band's album on it or whatever. same with the alesis 3630--great for pumping a mix, shitty for anything else.

point is these are very cheap, low-end pieces of gear and you seem to think you can't get high-end sound out of them. you definitely can if you use them right.
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« Reply #2320 on: Apr 26th, 2010, 11:58am »

You guys both need to practice your reading skills.

The point here is Eddie Kramer mixing on a poop console would kick the ass of any of us on a sexy ssl desk. The reason the pros use expensive gear is because they're pros and they can afford it. They're not pros because they bought some nice gear and fiddled with it. People tend to think that using the same equipment will give them the same results. It's more like if you can get the same results, then you'll be able to afford the equipment.

Your ears are more valuable than any piece of gear; training them will give you better results than upgrading any of your hardware.
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2321 on: Apr 26th, 2010, 3:06pm »

i'm having fun with waves, serious potential with that shit.
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« Reply #2322 on: Apr 26th, 2010, 11:13pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-DtHmcPrw

uh yep.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2323 on: Apr 26th, 2010, 11:23pm »

on Apr 26th, 2010, 11:13pm, gavinmac wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-DtHmcPrw

uh yep.


Dammit not those annoying videos again. Once was funny, but twice+ is like ear killing automated computer voices.... but definitely gets the point across in this topic haha
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2324 on: Apr 27th, 2010, 11:56am »

I like the one with the remix and the AR guy. It's funny.

I'm about to buy and iPad to use as a Lemur with TouchOSC and Osculator. I read about the automap feat. and design some custom pages to visually match all the plugins I use using my iphone it works amazing... like the best controller imaginable... just too little on my iphone.

starting a bunch of new tracks to start an album. pretty excited.
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