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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2445 on: Jan 7th, 2011, 7:23pm »

One new years resolution: make at least one song a month (at least haha). GO!
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2446 on: Jan 11th, 2011, 02:50am »

Anybody here have a good technique of pushing,say a drum sound, way back into the mix... like Jesse does with particular drums sounds lately ie. facepump, his love remix and i love you so remix??

Ive been trying to do it with a delay and reverb... is there something Im missing?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2447 on: Jan 11th, 2011, 06:38am »

on Jan 11th, 2011, 02:50am, nubuck wrote:
Anybody here have a good technique of pushing,say a drum sound, way back into the mix... like Jesse does with particular drums sounds lately ie. facepump, his love remix and i love you so remix??

Ive been trying to do it with a delay and reverb... is there something Im missing?


What I do is make the sound nice and quiet, then I put it on some kind of chorus effect and just try different volume levels. It usually works for me.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2448 on: Jan 11th, 2011, 7:37pm »

hard to say because you gotta mix in relation to your own song. if everything in your song has tons of reverb and delay on it (like felix cartals stuff or whatever) then that kind of becomes the "norm" and those things will appear to be fairly close. but if you leave some stuff dry then the reverby stuff will appear alot further away then it would have otherwise. does that make sense?

but generally speaking, in real life, stuff that's far away will be less mono and more stereo spread, and less high freq. ranges. bandpass + stereo fx + reverb ftw
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2449 on: Jan 12th, 2011, 11:48pm »

on Jan 11th, 2011, 06:38am, BLAINE LAKE wrote:
What I do is make the sound nice and quiet, then I put it on some kind of chorus effect and just try different volume levels. It usually works for me.


on Jan 11th, 2011, 7:37pm, Todd wrote:
hard to say because you gotta mix in relation to your own song. if everything in your song has tons of reverb and delay on it (like felix cartals stuff or whatever) then that kind of becomes the "norm" and those things will appear to be fairly close. but if you leave some stuff dry then the reverby stuff will appear alot further away then it would have otherwise. does that make sense?

but generally speaking, in real life, stuff that's far away will be less mono and more stereo spread, and less high freq. ranges. bandpass + stereo fx + reverb ftw


Thanks guys. Todd, that does make sense, I mean to make something sound further away I usually like lowpass it and reverb it to pieces... but you do loose some crispness... and now that you mentioned it, far away sounds in nature arent crisp... so that makes sense.

Im beginning to get the desired effect from your guys advise... i set up some return channels with Chorus, Reverb and stuff and sent that drum track to it... i used a different type of reverb than the rest of the track (sounds insane, i know... but what the heck) and it seems to be working so far.

Cheers.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2450 on: Jan 19th, 2011, 01:44am »

all right the forum is kinda alive again! what's up guys?

I've got tons of questions and things to contribute. Todd let's grab some lunch and talk music.

Been studying tons of music theory lately. Man oh man kinda explains why I couldn't write anything worth a damn before... I really didn't understand what I was doing.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2451 on: Jan 19th, 2011, 01:53am »

on Jan 11th, 2011, 02:50am, nubuck wrote:
Anybody here have a good technique of pushing,say a drum sound, way back into the mix... like Jesse does with particular drums sounds lately ie. facepump, his love remix and i love you so remix??

Ive been trying to do it with a delay and reverb... is there something Im missing?


There's some helpful plugs like Waves Dopler that can make the task easier but Todd is right, really depends on your space. You gotta just think about the nature of reverberation and how sound travels/ is reflected off surfaces... especially the way early reflections build.

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« Reply #2452 on: Jan 20th, 2011, 11:50pm »

Good to have Mauricio back.

Dude what kind of music theory you been studying? Ive been learning to play piano proper... and learning about the most popular and regularly used chord progressions and how they are used to create melodies...

In fact I found a site that has so many classic songs, recreated as complete midi files (drums, guitar, bass, keys etc)

check it out... very interesting http://www.myguitarsolo.com/midis.htm
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« Reply #2453 on: Jan 21st, 2011, 12:59am »

I sort of have a question, what parts of a song should have spread?
Not bass, maybe drums, the high stuff? And should it be applyed during mixing and mastering, or one or the other?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2454 on: Jan 21st, 2011, 10:36am »

on Jan 21st, 2011, 12:59am, eldoogle wrote:
I sort of have a question, what parts of a song should have spread?
Not bass, maybe drums, the high stuff? And should it be applyed during mixing and mastering, or one or the other?


Common misconception is that mastering = tweaks of song at end stage. This is mixing. Mastering is the process of finalizing the export of the song, where mixing is the levels, panning, dynamic range, etc.

Anywho, anything can have a stereo spread. Just keep in mind the more spread it is the more it may take up your panning range for that depth. I highly suggest looking up 3d mixing, where you focus on Front to Back (volume, reverb, delay), Left to Right (panning), and Up an Down (pitch).

Examples of 3d mixing: front center = vocals/lead (loud, panned center, not too much reverb). Mid center = kick drum, bass. Mid panned = slight panned snare, hi hats, toms..... etc
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2455 on: Jan 21st, 2011, 3:28pm »

Okay, not necessarily electronic, but here I go

I'm recording an entirely acapella version of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKlLSynR5lU

So I'm midway through this, and I want to start all over. Any suggestions for how to make good sounding vocal drums, and synth? Sort of a weird question, I know.

Any other suggestions would be noice. I'm doing this because I'm bored as shit and it's something I want to give a try.
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on Jan 23rd, 2011, 12:01pm, lukas. wrote:
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2456 on: Jan 21st, 2011, 10:20pm »

on Jan 20th, 2011, 11:50pm, nubuck wrote:
Good to have Mauricio back.

Dude what kind of music theory you been studying? Ive been learning to play piano proper... and learning about the most popular and regularly used chord progressions and how they are used to create melodies...

In fact I found a site that has so many classic songs, recreated as complete midi files (drums, guitar, bass, keys etc)

check it out... very interesting http://www.myguitarsolo.com/midis.htm


Thanks dude. I did this series where I studied theory flat out, then composition and then finally harmony. The harmony one has been the absolute best since i've learned all about composing for several instruments, how to control the energy and feel... plus i think the biggest eye opener has been seeing things I never would have dreamed and it totally changed the way I approached making music. I'm consumed with learning this stuff... it's great.

Awesome site. I'll check it out for sure.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2457 on: Jan 22nd, 2011, 03:54am »

Harmony and melody still trouble me... not much in terms of courses to attend...since i like in africa... but yeah... google eduction.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #2458 on: Jan 23rd, 2011, 3:40pm »

When I say spread I mean like, a wider sound, panned in both directions.
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« Reply #2459 on: Jan 23rd, 2011, 4:57pm »

cool site nubuck! i'm also teaching myself piano right now so thanks
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