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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #360 on: Jun 18th, 2008, 9:59pm »

Do you actually expect people to read this whole thread before posting? There's no way that their question could have possibly been answered before.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #361 on: Jun 18th, 2008, 10:02pm »

on Jun 18th, 2008, 9:59pm, slinky wrote:
Do you actually expect people to read this whole thread before posting? There's no way that their question could have possibly been answered before.


good point, maybe an index of some sorts is in order?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #362 on: Jun 18th, 2008, 10:33pm »

Sorry. I should've been more clear in my sarcasm in my last post.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #363 on: Jun 19th, 2008, 08:18am »

Yeah, sorry for asking. I mean, it's not possible that I read through the whole thread and still need a bit of help.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #364 on: Jun 19th, 2008, 6:13pm »

on Jun 18th, 2008, 10:33pm, slinky wrote:
Sorry. I should've been more clear in my sarcasm in my last post.


no need, i got it.

yeah, the first few pages have every basic quesion like that answered
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #365 on: Jun 19th, 2008, 6:15pm »

search function instead of reading all the way through?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #366 on: Jun 19th, 2008, 7:09pm »

on Jun 15th, 2008, 2:54pm, MiscChoc wrote:
to start just get FL studio. if you need an interface, get a cheap m-audio usb one. a midi controller isn't necessary, but if you want one get a 25 key. i have a 49 and unless you're recording actual piano playing its pretty unnecessary. later on maybe get into ableton etc.


I'm sorry but there's no way I could possibly disagree more with this post. Granted, before I start, I am a big piano player so I might be biased. But trying to create music on your laptop without a midi controller is like trying to fend off a bear with your hands when you had the opportunity to use a damn gun.

First off, I have no idea how anyone could write music without a midi keyboard. Maybe I'm just dumb, but to me it's a necessity, not a luxury. Second, I started off with a 25 key ReMOTE and found myself nothing short of frustrated and pissed off. I couldn't play songs in half of my favorite keys because there simply wasn't enough room. For example, B minor never worked out because C was the lowest key on the keyboard (even being able to transpose the octave it was still just dumb).

Now I have a 61 key and I still find myself craving for a bigger board. I use the transpose key alot, especially for the lower octaves.

I think having a large midi keyboard just plain opens up possibilities, even if you don't use them. What if you wanted to double your melody an octave below or above? A fifth above? Tranpose it to a new key? Yeah, you could pencil all those things in.. but why would you want to waste your valuable studio time? Instead, get a large midi keyboard, arm that damn track, and noodle away. Open up your musical mind.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #367 on: Jun 19th, 2008, 8:02pm »

on Jun 19th, 2008, 7:09pm, Todd wrote:
But trying to create music on your laptop without a midi controller is like trying to fend off a bear with your hands when you had the opportunity to use a damn gun.


what if youre chuck norris?

i use my keys a lot too, but i always go back to the midi edit window for fine tuning

the long and short of it is that a midi keyboard, regardless of size is gonna speed up your workflow help with creativity, i find it easier to come up with a cool part on the keys as opposed to drawing it
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« Reply #368 on: Jun 20th, 2008, 03:32am »

your either producing with a mouse or with your hands and if you wanna do more stuff with your hands its gonna cost ya. because more equipment/keys/knobs = more money. In my opinion someone on a budget that is just starting to mess around probably shouldnt get a giant keyboard. If your loaded and have a thing for keys then go ahead. Also if your starting out and your not willing to put the time into doing things on the computer and your just lazy then time will tell you that this isnt your thing. You have to slave if you wanna be good.

what im saying is, you dont need a controller right now - give it time, you can do everything a controller can do with your mouse. Its like learning to play the guitar on an acoustic rather than electric because it has a harder feel on the fingers. In lots of things you need to persevere and understand things in a different light to fully appreciate that something. Then again what do i know, i cant even grow facial hair.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #369 on: Jun 20th, 2008, 8:35pm »

If any of you guys have a Mac .. using GarageBand is a good entry program. It'll make other programs easier to learn..
Also Justice use it, especially the effects inside it.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #370 on: Jun 21st, 2008, 1:32pm »

on Jun 20th, 2008, 8:35pm, Cheezburger wrote:
If any of you guys have a Mac .. using GarageBand is a good entry program. It'll make other programs easier to learn..
Also Justice use it, especially the effects inside it.



do they not just use the slapbass?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #371 on: Jun 21st, 2008, 8:44pm »

on Jun 20th, 2008, 8:35pm, Cheezburger wrote:
If any of you guys have a Mac .. using GarageBand is a good entry program. It'll make other programs easier to learn..
Also Justice use it, especially the effects inside it.


garageband is fun

and no, mat, justice uses apple loops, im pretty sure gaspard could play the bass though
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #372 on: Jun 22nd, 2008, 12:27am »

guitar rig 3 is very quality!!! just started using it today
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« Reply #373 on: Jun 22nd, 2008, 08:20am »

so i got ableton to be able to play friends' parties, and also because ive been using reason for a while and i heard reason and ableton are great together because of rewire. i dont make electro/house music, but i do wanna record stuff: funk, disco, acoustic music and whatever for demos, etc. i thought ableton would be good to be able to record the audio and also add in synth parts and drum machine parts by using reason.

i'm having trouble setting up ableton though. it doesnt recognize my roland fantom as a midi controller. also, when i tried to set up the audio preferences by following the lesson, it wont let me adjust the buffer size. there's not even separate categories for input buffer size and output buffer size as the lesson shows on the screen shot. when i tried to start mixing with it after warping a couple tracks, i noticed theres no little window on the right to select a cue output and stuff like that; regardless of whether or not the I-O switch is on or off (it never turns yellow though). is all this a problem with my interface? i have a presonus firepod: firewire, 8 outputs, 8 inputs, a phones output, midi in and out.

i don't expect the solution to everything, but if anybody could at least get me going in the right direction, post a website that has the answers, or let me know if its a problem with my interface, thatd be really helpful
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #374 on: Jun 22nd, 2008, 10:38am »

make sure record quantization is off, and make sure in the midi/sync preferences you have 'remote' turned on. Also with controllers, the drivers are sometimes really sketchy so make sure you actually have the midi input coming it with a program that test for midi lines.
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