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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #525 on: Aug 17th, 2008, 01:34am »

on Aug 14th, 2008, 12:26pm, Taylor wrote:
i hear predator kicks ass


Predator is my go to synth. I have two presets I programmed from scratch called "Thicky" and "Swirly", and nearly every synth you hear on any Baby Diamonds song started from one of those two presets. I absolutely love that synth.
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« Reply #526 on: Aug 17th, 2008, 03:11am »

i might just record directly from my hs-60 synth, but i also want to use the synth like a controller. are there any interfaces that have the 1/4 inch input for recording and then a midi in as well? maybe im mixing shit up here...i know that the fast track and mboxes dont have midi
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« Reply #527 on: Aug 17th, 2008, 2:58pm »

on Aug 15th, 2008, 1:42pm, xavier wrote:
i saw this on the remix website and was wondering if anyone can explain to me what xavier means by

“Genesis.” That song is just made of hundreds of small samples, from Slipknot to Queen. We first recorded all the parts with MIDI synths and then replaced every note with really short samples. "

Heres the whole thing.


Do you prefer the more uplifting songs to the darker songs in general?

GA: To be honest, I love them all because both the romantic tracks and the more violent ones are just about instant emotion.

XdR: It just depends on the moment we're listening to it. When we finished the album, we obviously did prefer the last ones we did. But now I don't have a specific one I love more than the others. Maybe “Genesis.” That song is just made of hundreds of small samples, from Slipknot to Queen. We first recorded all the parts with MIDI synths and then replaced every note with really short samples.

Yeah I think this is what he means. It's really cool actually.
What they did was come up with their melodies like you would normally, like they say, on a MIDI keyboard. Then they took snippets of all these other songs and mapped them to the different notes in the melodies. So, say every time they play a C they're actually playing a C played on guitar from a Queen song. If you were to play a scale on the MIDI keyboard mapped to the sampler, it would be made of all these clips from different songs.
You can do the same thing if you have any kind of sampler, and a keyboard to play it with. you just start with C (or whatever note you want) and try to find that note in a song you want to sample. Then cut out that one second where the C is playing and map it to your C key. Then do the same thing for all eleven notes (or more if you want the samples to change with octaves) from different songs, and then you'll be playing melodies with all these short samples from different songs.
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
EDIT: I JUST REALIZED THIS ISN'T THE WHERE I GO ON MUSHROOMS THREAD.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #528 on: Aug 17th, 2008, 3:25pm »

on Aug 17th, 2008, 01:34am, Todd wrote:
Predator is my go to synth. I have two presets I programmed from scratch called "Thicky" and "Swirly", and nearly every synth you hear on any Baby Diamonds song started from one of those two presets. I absolutely love that synth.


how the hell on predator do u make new prests, al i can seem to do i edit the ones that come with it
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« Reply #529 on: Aug 17th, 2008, 3:37pm »

on Aug 17th, 2008, 3:25pm, xavier wrote:
how the hell on predator do u make new prests, al i can seem to do i edit the ones that come with it

You mean start out with a blank preset? Click on the preset box and choose "Default Preset"
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
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« Reply #530 on: Aug 17th, 2008, 4:10pm »

got it thanks
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #531 on: Aug 19th, 2008, 12:47pm »

lolslipknot.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #532 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 12:02am »

on Aug 19th, 2008, 12:47pm, panchobot wrote:
lolslipknot.


If you don't have anything to contribute, don't post.
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« Reply #533 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 12:06am »

I understand this is a completely subjective and case to case question, but does anyone have any idea how many dB louder kicks are supposed to be above the rest of the mix? I've heard over and over, check your level meter to make sure the kick is the loudest thing in the mix, but are there any sort of rough guidelines or numbers to measure this? Or is it just, "well this sounds good".
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #534 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 12:15am »

on Aug 21st, 2008, 12:06am, Todd wrote:
"well this sounds good".


answered your own question, fuck rules
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« Reply #535 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 12:32am »

on Aug 21st, 2008, 12:06am, Todd wrote:
I understand this is a completely subjective and case to case question, but does anyone have any idea how many dB louder kicks are supposed to be above the rest of the mix? I've heard over and over, check your level meter to make sure the kick is the loudest thing in the mix, but are there any sort of rough guidelines or numbers to measure this? Or is it just, "well this sounds good".


calculating in DB is difficult, every three db is consired "one more louder"

i usually just when im done editing and it's time to mix.
make sure your kick has good signal, and solo it out, then add the snare, hi hat, eventually getting to your synths and vocals.

do it one by one leveling it out, then after you have a generally good mix

it's master buss compression time, where it gets difficult
it just takes practice, its like balancing a baby just right till it passes out

you dont wanna add to much and you want it loud.

try sidechain your kick to the master bus as well if you're having problems hearing it
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« Reply #536 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 09:16am »

Hi there people

I am starting to play a bit with ableton and i bought a MIDI keyboard (BEHRINGER UMX25) to start getting it really on

I wuz thinking in making some music edits/remixes of songs i really love to start getting used to all the features of ableton and such...

Could any of you tell me in resume what steps should i take to make a nice song edit....like....cutting the whole song into pieces (with what piece of software ? i have Cool Edit lol)....how to extract the voice from the music etc....

Just tell me the steps i should take to "modify" a song to my own taste (please...)

Sorry about my bad english :S
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« Reply #537 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:52pm »

First of all you can't really "extract"the vocals from the music. You can do some stuff where you only keep the stuff that's dead center but it still usually leaves the kick and bass and only works about 50% of the time. If you want to remix a song the best thing to do is look for an acapella version, a copy with just the vocals. Then after that it's really up to you. Depending on how you want everything to sound, you could slice the vocals up and edit them, or start with new drums or bass, etc. It's usually helpful to know a bit of music theory so you can determine what key the song is in and what key to play in. If you're smart enough, you can play in a completely different key and have the vocals fit, but that's for the smarties
Basically pick the stuff you want to keep from the song and fill in the rest.

As for programs, it's a matter of taste. The typical remix will need some sort of audio editing, drums (usually samples), synths or more samples, for melodies, bassline, etc, and some way to sequence it all together. Ableton would do it, as would many other programs. Like I said, it's a matter of opinion.
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
EDIT: I JUST REALIZED THIS ISN'T THE WHERE I GO ON MUSHROOMS THREAD.
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« Reply #538 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 2:00pm »

Thankz man...i already found some tuts on how to do your own acapellas....however is there any chance that a site with acapellas already exists ? with sounds from MSTRKRFT or boys noize or even justice ? Probably there aren't cuz of legal issues...
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« Reply #539 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 2:06pm »

A lot of times artist will release acapellas with like their singles or something to promote remixing. The more attention the song get's the more albums sell right?
I think I remember Jesse saying something about releasing the instrumental to Bounce...? Could be wrong...
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
EDIT: I JUST REALIZED THIS ISN'T THE WHERE I GO ON MUSHROOMS THREAD.
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