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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #75 on: Jan 24th, 2008, 3:35pm »

hey, so guys, i dont really wanna use ableton , cause i love fruityloops studio, so im gunna use that, but can u hook up a midi controller to it?

and can i just use a good pair of headpones like these instead of a monitor?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-K-44-Headphones?sku=241030

and is this midi controller any good, would you guys say? im on a tight budget.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-Oxygen-8-v2-25Key-Mobile-USB-Controller?sku=706310
or is this one better?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UMX25-25Key-USBMIDI-Controller-Keyboard?sku=702543

thankses all around. im going for a very justice sound, but sort of lo fi.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #76 on: Jan 24th, 2008, 4:20pm »

on Jan 24th, 2008, 3:35pm, BMAK wrote:
hey, so guys, i dont really wanna use ableton , cause i love fruityloops studio, so im gunna use that, but can u hook up a midi controller to it?

and can i just use a good pair of headpones like these instead of a monitor?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-K-44-Headphones?sku=241030

and is this midi controller any good, would you guys say? im on a tight budget.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-Oxygen-8-v2-25Key-Mobile-USB-Controller?sku=706310
or is this one better?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UMX25-25Key-USBMIDI-Controller-Keyboard?sku=702543

thankses all around. im going for a very justice sound, but sort of lo fi.



yeah, it can take midi

you can use in ear monitors, search that, with monitors youre looking for flat response so you can see what the track really sounds like, jesse suggested shures, also with most headphones you only get one driver, so you have less sound range than dual driver monitors

and i think mercurius uses an oxygen, maybe ask him about it, i dont really like the key action on some controllers, if its something youll be playing, i suggest going to a store and trying it out, see if it feels right
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #77 on: Jan 24th, 2008, 5:43pm »

on Jan 24th, 2008, 3:35pm, BMAK wrote:
hey, so guys, i dont really wanna use ableton , cause i love fruityloops studio, so im gunna use that, but can u hook up a midi controller to it?


Actually, I'm fooling around w/ just a small set-up with what you're going for. It's just FL Studio 7 and a Casio-WK3800 keyboard. It's a midi controller aswell and you sure have alot to mess with. The only problem is I can't figure out to get the so tones and instruments out of the keyboard and into the program. I already tried the MIDI out function but it still doesn't give me what I want. Perhaps it's just the software...
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #78 on: Jan 24th, 2008, 9:53pm »

on Jan 24th, 2008, 5:43pm, R2RO wrote:
Actually, I'm fooling around w/ just a small set-up with what you're going for. It's just FL Studio 7 and a Casio-WK3800 keyboard. It's a midi controller aswell and you sure have alot to mess with. The only problem is I can't figure out to get the so tones and instruments out of the keyboard and into the program. I already tried the MIDI out function but it still doesn't give me what I want. Perhaps it's just the software...


midi sends data, ons and offs, not audio, read the first few pages about midi and audio that i posted

basically youre telling the computer "hey, plays these notes" not "hey, record the sounds coming from my keyboard"
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #79 on: Jan 25th, 2008, 6:13pm »

on Jan 24th, 2008, 9:53pm, Taylor wrote:
midi sends data, ons and offs, not audio, read the first few pages about midi and audio that i posted

basically youre telling the computer "hey, plays these notes" not "hey, record the sounds coming from my keyboard"


So in order for me to tell my computer "Hey, play the sounds coming out of my keyboard" instead of, "You fucken piece of unforgiving pile of shit! Why won't you play the fucken sounds out the keyboard? WHY!?" what must I do? It's in the manual, I'm sure and I've already read it. I even read it OUT LOUD.

By the way, will it only control MIDI if it's plugged in via USB and not the L/R 1/4" jack inputs?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #80 on: Jan 25th, 2008, 6:39pm »

on Jan 25th, 2008, 6:13pm, R2RO wrote:
So in order for me to tell my computer "Hey, play the sounds coming out of my keyboard" instead of, "You fucken piece of unforgiving pile of shit! Why won't you play the fucken sounds out the keyboard? WHY!?" what must I do? It's in the manual, I'm sure and I've already read it. I even read it OUT LOUD.

By the way, will it only control MIDI if it's plugged in via USB and not the L/R 1/4" jack inputs?


the manual is probably implying its a keyboard that can also be used as a controller

the keyword here is CONTROLLER, controllers dont make noise

what youre trying to do is like trying to make a guitar hero controller make actual guitar noises as opposed to it sending data to the xbox (sorry, first analogy that came to mind)

now if this thing has a MIDI input, you can send MIDI to it from your sequencer

to record audio, you need an audio interface, heres a nice cheapo one http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-Fast-Track-USB-Computer-Recording-Interface?sku=703606

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #81 on: Jan 27th, 2008, 10:12am »

we know what most people are using here gear-wise...but how are your rooms set-up? how much attention are you paying to acoustics etc? it's pretty important...
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #82 on: Jan 27th, 2008, 5:15pm »

on Jan 27th, 2008, 10:12am, dmargaret wrote:
we know what most people are using here gear-wise...but how are your rooms set-up? how much attention are you paying to acoustics etc? it's pretty important...


headphones...lots of pairs of headphones, im mastering dvno remix im working on right now with shitty ipod headphones

my room is pretty much a square with a huge window on one side
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #83 on: Jan 27th, 2008, 8:36pm »

on Jan 27th, 2008, 5:15pm, Taylor wrote:
headphones...lots of pairs of headphones, im mastering dvno remix im working on right now with shitty ipod headphones

my room is pretty much a square with a huge window on one side


By the way Taylor, are you still gonna layer your Kick Drums? Jesse said to not believe your guff about that and all the kicks in his production are processed in the mix. I fiddled with that, added some filters and blew out my low dBs enough to not distort my bass and I got the results I wanted. But it's nice to have that "warm crunch" to it too.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #84 on: Jan 28th, 2008, 2:06pm »

Hey guys

Me and my buddy decided to learn a bit about making electronic music and try out making some tracks. He's into minimal techno/progressive stuff and old school house, im more into the heavier electro shit, and more of the indie stuff I guess. We figured itd be a cool mix.
After a little research it seems Reason suits us best(since we already have 3.0 and a couple of plugins haha). So we're gonna mess around with that and are gonna need some newbie gear to start us off.

ANYWAY, We're kinda lost in the gear-jungle.
We've been eyeing the M-Audio Axiom 25. The price seems okay, does anyone here have experience with it? Is it a decent piece to start out with? What's the major drawbacks of having just 25 keys? apart from the obvious I guess(less octaves to work with etc). Or are there some better reasons to just aim for a 49 or 61?
Are there some other similar one within the same pricerange you can recommend instead?

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« Reply #85 on: Jan 28th, 2008, 11:04pm »

on Jan 27th, 2008, 8:36pm, R2RO wrote:
By the way Taylor, are you still gonna layer your Kick Drums? Jesse said to not believe your guff about that and all the kicks in his production are processed in the mix. I fiddled with that, added some filters and blew out my low dBs enough to not distort my bass and I got the results I wanted. But it's nice to have that "warm crunch" to it too.


to be honest, ill just fuck around with the kick until i like it, its not really how you get the sound, im more concerned about the end results, if i try to eq/filter it and i dont get what i want, ill stack, ive heard talk that thats what bangalter does on his roule trax
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #86 on: Jan 28th, 2008, 11:07pm »

on Jan 28th, 2008, 2:06pm, Joseph wrote:
Hey guys

Me and my buddy decided to learn a bit about making electronic music and try out making some tracks. He's into minimal techno/progressive stuff and old school house, im more into the heavier electro shit, and more of the indie stuff I guess. We figured itd be a cool mix.
After a little research it seems Reason suits us best(since we already have 3.0 and a couple of plugins haha). So we're gonna mess around with that and are gonna need some newbie gear to start us off.

ANYWAY, We're kinda lost in the gear-jungle.
We've been eyeing the M-Audio Axiom 25. The price seems okay, does anyone here have experience with it? Is it a decent piece to start out with? What's the major drawbacks of having just 25 keys? apart from the obvious I guess(less octaves to work with etc). Or are there some better reasons to just aim for a 49 or 61?
Are there some other similar one within the same pricerange you can recommend instead?

thanks!


i hear the drum pads on the axiom series suck, like you cant get constant velocity because of the size of the sensor beneath the pad, and you can compose on 2 octaves, generally when im just playing around i usually play between 2 octaves, only problem is youd have to switch octaves a lot, i have a 49 key and its enough for me

though theres a lot of piano playing in old school house so you may wanna get a 61 key since my pianist friend always complains about how i only have 49 keys
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« Reply #87 on: Jan 29th, 2008, 08:24am »

on Jan 28th, 2008, 11:07pm, Taylor wrote:
i hear the drum pads on the axiom series suck, like you cant get constant velocity because of the size of the sensor beneath the pad, and you can compose on 2 octaves, generally when im just playing around i usually play between 2 octaves, only problem is youd have to switch octaves a lot, i have a 49 key and its enough for me

though theres a lot of piano playing in old school house so you may wanna get a 61 key since my pianist friend always complains about how i only have 49 keys


cool. yea I think we'll just get a 49 right away. I'm not sure what our music will be like, but a 49 should be enough I think. A 61 would be a bit intimidating since im not a top notch pianist ahah, im "ok" at most.
But maybe not axiom series then. We're not really looking to buy another piece just for drums, it'd be nice to have decent drumming capabilities on the same gear.
What do you use btw? Could you recommend anything within a fairly similar pricerange as the axiom 25 or 49?
thanks for the reply btw! :]

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #88 on: Jan 29th, 2008, 9:29pm »

Hey. Just working on building my dj set right now. I'm kind of leaning towards the CDJ-800's. I was looking at the 200's for a bit with my friend but we noticed they don't have scratching and alot of the other features. We are kind of real tight on money. But we've been considering one 800 and a 200 as crazy as that might sound. If anyone got's any recommendations, as well as for a mixer. Would be greatly appreciated. We've got nearly 1500 right now to spend. And 1000's are looking pretty insane but are nearly twice as much. Not sure if we should hold out longer.

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« Reply #89 on: Jan 29th, 2008, 9:36pm »

on Jan 29th, 2008, 08:24am, Joseph wrote:
cool. yea I think we'll just get a 49 right away. I'm not sure what our music will be like, but a 49 should be enough I think. A 61 would be a bit intimidating since im not a top notch pianist ahah, im "ok" at most.
But maybe not axiom series then. We're not really looking to buy another piece just for drums, it'd be nice to have decent drumming capabilities on the same gear.
What do you use btw? Could you recommend anything within a fairly similar pricerange as the axiom 25 or 49?
thanks for the reply btw! :]



http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Keystation-49-Note-Controller-Keyboard/dp/B0002A9V6C

Really all you need. Would be nice to have some of those extra features like the Axioms, but you don't really need them too much.
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