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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #765 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 12:03am »

on Aug 28th, 2008, 12:17pm, Heraclys wrote:
Thanks Diego De La Vega!

I've tested out some stuff that I read on this forum.
Wow, the best thing I tried was something Taylor mentioned.

He spoke in one of his posts about a special trick that JFK uses for his synths.
Splitting up the sound coming from the synth in 3 parts and putting the low pass filter on the first and high pass and chorus on the others + spreading these out.
The results here in my mini studio are amazing!

I used massive with 3 oscillators all with saw waves.
Behind this the izotop trash.
That gives some crazy sounds dudes!

Thank you very much Taylor!!


Sorry.. this was the quote i was looking for.. I would like to know more about this.. looks very interresting...
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #766 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 5:32pm »

on Nov 4th, 2008, 7:23pm, LukeSwits wrote:
side chain compression

does everything (synth leads and basses) have to side be chained to your kick drum for it to sound good?


its totally personal choice. consider that all side chain compression does is tell another track to "duck" out of the way when another sound signals it.
its most useful in dance for basslines because you can have your bassline duck when the kick drum is triggered allowing more clarity for the kick. but you can use it for other parts too, like harmonies just to give it a phasing sound.
if you listen to Danger's remix of that Boys Noize track, that whole thing is side chained, but that was a creative decision.
http://hypem.com/track/651583/Boys+Noize-Ne.Oh%21.Pen+%28Danger+remix%29

keep in mind, if you have a shitty or quiet kick drum, all the sidechaining in the world won't save you. but if you have a lot of bass frequencies going on, its typically a good idea to side chain those so as not to interfere with the kick. and you dont have to max it out for it to be functional.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #767 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 5:50pm »

on Nov 5th, 2008, 5:32pm, mercuriusfm wrote:
if you listen to Danger's remix of that Boys Noize track, that whole thing is side chained, but that was a creative decision.
http://hypem.com/track/651583/Boys+Noize-Ne.Oh%21.Pen+%28Danger+remix%29
Shit is it ever.
I think a quicker release on that might have made it a bit better.
The sidechain compressor is such an arrogant effect. I love it.
It's the equivalent of "SHUTUP! I'M TALKING!"

on Nov 5th, 2008, 12:03am, thorrr wrote:
Sorry.. this was the quote i was looking for.. I would like to know more about this.. looks very interresting...

I explained it in detail here somewhere... I think it was in this thread a while back probably.
Basically, Low frequencies sound like shit when you spread them out in stereo or when you put on effects like chorus. They just turn to mush and lack definition. But spread out basslines sound epic, so you filter out the low frequencies and keep them dead center and relatively unprocessed, and then duplicate the track, this time you cut the lows and then spread everything else out and add extra effects. This way the lower frequencies in the bass line stay centered and clear, and the higher frequencies are spread out to make the bass fatter.
I believe the synth in Bounce uses this trick. Jesse said it's all over their new album.

Let me know if I don't make sense, I've explained this trick several times.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #768 on: Nov 5th, 2008, 6:19pm »

^yeah so did jesse
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« Reply #769 on: Nov 6th, 2008, 03:36am »

^ did you read nothing above?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #770 on: Nov 6th, 2008, 06:39am »

on Nov 6th, 2008, 03:36am, mercuriusfm wrote:
^ did you read nothing above?


lmao, i'm not gonna lie i didn't.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #771 on: Nov 7th, 2008, 10:53pm »

I just wanted to know is there a major differnence between dj Mixers and dj Controllers?

personally i can't really see a diference between these two types of equipmentment, then again i am pretty much a noob at this point in the game.
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« Reply #772 on: Nov 7th, 2008, 11:28pm »

A DJ mixer is what your turntables/CDJs/Audio out from computer would run into. It's got the crossfader, volume faders, EQs etc. It deals with the actual audio.

A DJ controller usually implies hardware used to manipulate a DJ program. A Midi controller like the Vestax VCI or the Torq Exponent. These could be used for play/pause etc. but might also have mixer functions (like a crossfader, EQs) They're not actual EQs but assignable knobs/faders layed out in the style of a DJ mixer. The program itself is doing the actual crossfading or EQing. These types of controllers deal with Midi data, not audio. The audio isn't actually going in or out. It's just sending commands through a usb cable.

You could also probably classify CDJs as controllers if you were using them with control CDs to manipulate Serato/Traktor. This is done with timecoded CDs that the program decrypts and turns into commands.

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Mixer takes two sources of audio and EQs, crossfades, adjusts volume etc.
A Controller is used to send commands to your program, which is doing the actual mixing and EQ/effects internally most of the time.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #773 on: Nov 9th, 2008, 08:36am »

Can someone explain to me how do u do something like this ?

(zshare link with an example)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/511071776a023486/

I use Reason, i started a few weeks ago, but i really cant understand how u do this type of effect/distortion....it really looks like a guitar distorted. Is it ? all i have to do is get some guitar refills and distort them ? or does it have more to it ?

U can find this effect/distortion thing in oh so many sounds, like Justice - Waters of Nazareth, Deadmau5 - Ghosts n Stuff...

please help cuz this is driving me nuts
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #774 on: Nov 9th, 2008, 12:14pm »

Thor + Scream
Play around with saw waves. Maybe one square... Mess with the octaves of each one and then when you get the basic tone you want, hit the distortion and fool with that too.

There's also a good deal of magic involved...
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #775 on: Nov 9th, 2008, 1:24pm »

on Nov 9th, 2008, 08:36am, deviant wrote:
Can someone explain to me how do u do something like this ?

(zshare link with an example)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/511071776a023486/

I use Reason, i started a few weeks ago, but i really cant understand how u do this type of effect/distortion....it really looks like a guitar distorted. Is it ? all i have to do is get some guitar refills and distort them ? or does it have more to it ?

U can find this effect/distortion thing in oh so many sounds, like Justice - Waters of Nazareth, Deadmau5 - Ghosts n Stuff...

please help cuz this is driving me nuts


set up subtractor, use the Bass Guitar patch.
put the second oscilator down 1 octave.
add on scream distortion and play with it till it sounds right.
play with the amp simulator in scream
play thru the arpeggiator.

thats the foundation. once you get it, you can use other synths too. just remember, typically you want the synth itself to be very dry. no echoes.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #776 on: Nov 9th, 2008, 1:46pm »

has anyone tried the new traktor pro? the effects on it are ridiculous
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« Reply #777 on: Nov 9th, 2008, 1:49pm »

Everything on it's ridiculous.
The only thing i don't like is a couple things with the GUI. There seems to be some really large dividers that are taking up screen space. It'd be nice if I could shrink everything down. Version 1.2's gonna kick ass.
Other than that, I love it. Too bad it hasn't been properly cracked yet...
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on Mar 13th, 2009, 05:06am, TYLER wrote:
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #778 on: Nov 9th, 2008, 2:13pm »

Your mom's put together incredibly well.

Seriously though. Redundant comment much?

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #779 on: Nov 9th, 2008, 2:26pm »

on Nov 9th, 2008, 1:49pm, Kyran wrote:
Everything on it's ridiculous.
The only thing i don't like is a couple things with the GUI. There seems to be some really large dividers that are taking up screen space. It'd be nice if I could shrink everything down. Version 1.2's gonna kick ass.
Other than that, I love it. Too bad it hasn't been properly cracked yet...


yeah it has, mine works fine

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4494368/Native.Instruments.Traktor.Pro.v1.0.1-UNION

read the instructions in the comments at the bottom

i have to agree with you on the dividers though. theres a lot of unecessary stuff you can take out to save space but everything just looks so damn nice. the only fault that i have with it is that my custom midi assigns are all gone and i need to make a new one. the layout makes everything so easy and i love the 4 deck mixing.
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