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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #990 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:46pm »

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« Reply #991 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:51pm »

sounds like filter automation on the frequency to me. But i no there not using ableton so i'm stumped as to what that could be.
Almost all of soulwax's gear is like ancient, or so I heard in an interview so my guess is it is one of those filter boxes that u see Stephen tweaking during the live footage of soulwax in part of the weekend never dies.
Part of that song sounds very similar to the mstrkrft services remix.

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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #992 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:04pm »

on Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:51pm, supertraxxe wrote:
sounds like filter automation on the frequency to me. But i no there not using ableton so i'm stumped as to what that could be.
Almost all of soulwax's gear is like ancient, or so I heard in an interview so my guess is it is one of those filter boxes that u see Stephen tweaking during the live footage of soulwax in part of the weekend never dies.
Part of that song sounds very similar to the mstrkrft services remix.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYNlFlF0iYM&feature=related

yeah they have a pretty crazy collection of gear
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« Reply #993 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:39pm »

haha yeah thats the interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2jmvAxpym4&feature=related

if you go to like 3:00 and listen to the build up of that high frequency, at about 3:05 they cut out of the build up and there is a shot of Stephen turning a knob and bringing the frequency down. I'm pretty sure its a vintage filter box kind of like deadmau5 talks about using in this article.

http://remixmag.com/production/tips_techniques/toy-story-deadmaus/
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #994 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 04:38am »

without reading or looking at any of it...
sounds like a phaser is what you're describing as a "filter box"
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #995 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 08:11am »

on Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:31pm, LukeSwits wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kGrcymGZE

at 3:06 theres a synth that seems like a sine wave, but it goes from low pitch to high and like dissolves into this weird feedback. does anyone know how to recreate something like that?


uh, well that's a complicated sound. cause the first part of it is an LFO controlling the frequency of an oscillator. here's the specs, they're kind of approximate but kind of close

LFO- amplitude = 125, frequency = (exponential curve from) .5 to .75 (you'd get that by turning a knob up just a little bit from .5 to .75 during the course of the note), and the wave form of the LFO is a simple sine wave. and start the LFO 90 degrees out of phase

Carrier Signal (actual sound)- amplitude=(doesn't matter), frequency= 360, wave form- i have no idea, some tricked out mix between a sine and square. that's the trick of this game, is figuring out how to replicate someone else's waveform exactly. if somebody knows how to do this without a spectral analyzer, please let us know.

and it's got some reverb and distortion or gain and probably a little bit of a 15 other effects or whatever...but definitely some reverb

but the "dissolving part"...i can't figure that out. maybe it's like the knob they're turning that's controlling the frequency of the LFO starts at like .5 and ends at infinity or something (as high as the computer can calculate it), and they jerk it up really fast and that silvery kind of noise is just fold-over. i have no idea about the second part though, it's wiilllldddd!
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« Reply #996 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 08:22am »

or atleast that's how i replicated the sound. if these are guys who are in a band and using instruments, then i don't know what the hell is going on lol!
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« Reply #997 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 10:08am »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 08:11am, robert wrote:
LFO- amplitude = 125, frequency = (exponential curve from) .5 to .75 (you'd get that by turning a knob up just a little bit from .5 to .75 during the course of the note), and the wave form of the LFO is a simple sine wave. and start the LFO 90 degrees out of phase!


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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #998 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 11:17am »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 08:11am, robert wrote:
uh, well that's a complicated sound. cause the first part of it is an LFO controlling the frequency of an oscillator. here's the specs, they're kind of approximate but kind of close

LFO- amplitude = 125, frequency = (exponential curve from) .5 to .75 (you'd get that by turning a knob up just a little bit from .5 to .75 during the course of the note), and the wave form of the LFO is a simple sine wave. and start the LFO 90 degrees out of phase

Carrier Signal (actual sound)- amplitude=(doesn't matter), frequency= 360, wave form- i have no idea, some tricked out mix between a sine and square. that's the trick of this game, is figuring out how to replicate someone else's waveform exactly. if somebody knows how to do this without a spectral analyzer, please let us know.

and it's got some reverb and distortion or gain and probably a little bit of a 15 other effects or whatever...but definitely some reverb

but the "dissolving part"...i can't figure that out. maybe it's like the knob they're turning that's controlling the frequency of the LFO starts at like .5 and ends at infinity or something (as high as the computer can calculate it), and they jerk it up really fast and that silvery kind of noise is just fold-over. i have no idea about the second part though, it's wiilllldddd!


Whooaaa man, I think you're WAY overthinking this. In this video he's using one oldschool, analog synth. No external reverb, distortion, phaser or filter boxes (for this one part at least). He's just turning on a High Pass Filter with extremely high resonance/resistance, that's it. It's really simple to do and it's a very familiar sound! I do hear some sidechain compression going on, but no LFO either!

Anyone can make this sound in five seconds, the reason it sounds so great is because Soulwax is using a legit oldschool analog synth, but just because it sounds great does NOT mean it's complicated! It isn't!
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #999 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 3:04pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 11:17am, Todd wrote:
Anyone can make this sound in five seconds, the reason it sounds so great is because Soulwax is using a legit oldschool analog synth, but just because it sounds great does NOT mean it's complicated! It isn't!


yeah i think the ms 20 has a lot to do with it. you can get some pretty cool and weird sounds from it.


is pro tools a really steep learning curve if you already know the ins and outs of ableton?
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1000 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 10:13pm »

Hi Robert, I will send you a message via PM later tonight as I am babysitting some of my students right now and can only type from my phone. If you would like to have a civil discussion with me, we can do it there.

This thread is for making electronic music and should be reserved for learning, education and teaching only. Thanks

Hope you have a better rest of your night!
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« Reply #1001 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 10:33pm »

i think todd was right. soulwax uses the ms20 and it's known for its high and low pass filters that can have really high resonance. plus the filter sweep explains the "dissolving" sound.

i tried it on a korg legacy ms20 vst and it sounded pretty close.
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Re: Making Electronic Music
« Reply #1002 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 10:38pm »

Dude deadmau5 uses fl wtf thats crazy
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« Reply #1003 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 10:53pm »

not really, you ever used the FL piano roll? its quick as hell, thats about the only thing fl has going for it though
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« Reply #1004 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 10:59pm »

actually i'm using right now haha

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